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Marie

Marie Report 23 Jan 2020 21:32

Trying to find parents of William Barker, b.1861 Fenton, Staffordshire. He married Fanny Jackson, b.1859 market Drayton. They married 1881 in Market Drayton.
Haven't been able to locate William in censuses prior to 1891.
Can anyone help please. Thank you.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Jan 2020 21:47

If he knew his father, the name and occupation will be on the marriage cert

Which site are you using to try to find census info?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Jan 2020 22:01

For some reason my computer isn't letting me copy/paste at the moment.

In 1871 there's a William Ridge, born 1861 in Fenton, grandson of Phillip and Martha Ridge, plus their sons John and Phillip and daughter Emily, all living in Fenton.

Although the image clearly says William Ridge, an Ancestry user has amended it to William Barker.

He is still with his grandparents in 1881. but this time listed as Barker.

His marriage to Fanny was later that year, in Market Drayton.

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jan 2020 22:02

possible

1881 living with his grandparents

Name: William Barker
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship to Head: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Fenton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 2 Park Lane
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Potters Placer
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub registration district: Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2730
Folio: 30
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Phillip Ridge 77
Martha Ridge 67
William Barker 19

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Jan 2020 22:04

Yes, that's the one I mentioned above.

and now the computer's letting me paste the 1871:


William Ridge
in the 1871 England Census
Name: William Ridge
[William Barker]
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: 1861
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Fenton Staffordshire England
Civil Parish: Fenton
Ecclesiastical parish: Longton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 243
Piece: 2872
Folio: 24
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Phillip Ridge 69
Martha Ridge 54
John Ridge 30
Emily Ridge 6
Phillip Ridge 11
Martha Ridge 11
William Ridge 10

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jan 2020 22:06

2 births with mmn Ridge

BARKER, WILLIAM RIDGE
GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 191
BARKER, WILLIAM RIDGE
GRO Reference: 1861 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 166

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Jan 2020 22:06

His birth:

BARKER, WILLIAM mms RIDGE
GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 191

EDIT:

Or the one in 1861 !

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Jan 2020 22:08

Possibly parents' marriage:

Marriages Mar 1859 (>99%)
Barker Samuel Stoke On .T. 6b 205
Ridge Maria Stoke on T 6B 205

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jan 2020 22:09

In which case, possible marriage for parents

arriages Mar 1859 (>99%)
**** Barker Samuel Stoke On .T. 6b 205
Birks Samuel Stoke On T 6b 205
Goodwin David Stoke On Trent 6b 205
Newham Sarah Stoke on T 6b 205
Ratcliffe Alice Stoke on T 6b 205
**** Ridge Maria Stoke on T 6B 205
Stephenson Anne Stoke on T 6b 205
Stephenson Fanny Stoke on T 6b 205

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jan 2020 22:11

Name: Maria Ridge
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 29 Jan 1844
Baptism Place: Longton, Stoke-upon-Trent, Stafford, England
Father: Phillip Ridge
Mother: Martha
FHL Film Number: 1471087
Reference ID: item 2 p 117
............................................................

Name: Maria Ridge
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 18 Apr 1844
Baptism Place: St. Gregory, Longton, Stafford, England
Father: Philippe Ridge
Mother: Martha Timmins ******
FHL Film Number: 1999393
Reference ID: item 8-10

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Jan 2020 22:11

Maria with her parents in 1861: [EDIT - No, it's 1851! ]

Phillip Ridge
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Phillip Ridge
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Martha Ridge
Gender: Male
Where born: Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Longton St James
Town: Fenton Culvert
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 33
Piece: 2006
Folio: 403
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Phillip Ridge 50
Martha Ridge 35
Samuel Ridge 19
Charles Ridge 13
John Ridge 12
George Ridge 19
Maria Ridge 7 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mary Ann Ridge 5
Martha Ridge 3

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jan 2020 22:11

1841
Name: Philip Ridge
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent
Hundred: North Pirehill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration district: Stoke upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Fenton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 990
Book: 4
Folio: 22
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Philip Ridge 30
Martha Ridge 20
Samuel Ridge 9
Charles Ridge 2
John Ridge 1



1851

Name: Maria Ridge
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Phillip Ridge
Mother's name: Martha Ridge
Gender: Female
Where born: Fenton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Longton St James
Town: Fenton Culvert
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Piece: 2006
Folio: 403
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Phillip Ridge 50
Martha Ridge 35
Samuel Ridge 19
Charles Ridge 13
John Ridge 12
George Ridge 19
Maria Ridge 7
Mary Ann Ridge 5
Martha Ridge 3


1861
Name: Philip Ridge
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Martha Ridge
Gender: Male
Where born: Fenton
Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Fenton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 192
Piece: 1940
Folio: 22
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Philip Ridge 57
Martha Ridge 40
John Ridge 22
George Ridge 20
Mary Ann Ridge 15
Martha Ridge 13
Amelia Ridge 6
Phillip Ridge 10/12

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Jan 2020 22:15

Maybe a possibility for Samuel ??
Quite a bit older than Maria.


Samuel Barker
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Samuel Barker
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Sarah Barker
Gender: Male
Where born: Longton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Longton
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Longton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Longton
ED, institution, or vessel: 02
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 137
Piece: 2007
Folio: 57
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Barker 52
John Barker 27
Samuel Barker 25
William Barker 23
Charlotte Barker 12
Moses Barker 1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Jan 2020 22:21

Death of the 1860 William Barker:

BARKER, WILLIAM 0
GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 129

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Jan 2020 22:27

Catherine has posted a different 1861 from the one I posted.

Mine shows a Maria Ridge with her parents.

But clearly two different families.

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jan 2020 22:31

No, the one you have posted AG is the 1851 census, the same as the one I also posted.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Jan 2020 22:33

Oops, so it is!

Sorry!

safc

safc Report 23 Jan 2020 22:40

????

Births Sep 1863 (>99%)
BARKER William Jackson Stoke T 6b 211

Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%)
BARKER William Jackson Mt. Drayton 6a 1127 xxxxxxx
GREGORY Annie Mt Drayton 6a 1127
GRIFFITHS John Mt Drayton 6a 1127
JACKSON Fanny Mt.Drayton 6a 1127 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jan 2020 22:45

sibling

BARKER, JAMES RIDGE
GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 229

BARKER, MARY ANN RIDGE
GRO Reference: 1867 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 229

BARKER, MARTHA RIDGE
GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 228

safc

safc Report 23 Jan 2020 22:48

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1863
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
BARKER William Jackson HAMILTON 1863 Longton Stoke-On-Trent LGN/033/068