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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jun 2020 21:19

Yes, you could try Facebook.

Also try the Electoral Rolls - under "Search" at the top of this page.

There's one Sarah Hulstone currently at an address in Cambridgeshire - but I've no idea if that's the right person or not.

Bear in mind that people can opt out of the public ER, so may not appear on it anyway.

Wallace and Sarah married in 1941, not 1918.

I don't see any death for Sarah up to 2019, so chances are she's still alive.


As well as the 1948 birth you found, there's another in 1944 - see it on FreeBMD.

Also on FreeBMD you can find the 1944 child's marriage in 1964.

That couple are at a Staffordshire address on the 2020 ER.

Amanda

Amanda Report 13 Jun 2020 19:59

Hi,

First, let me say thank you for all the information you have given me.

I know sometimes it seems like l am flipping but l have kept track of the information.
know l am tieing up some loose ends.

I have gone back to the hulstones to tie up some loose ends.

Does anyone know how you could find relatives that are still living is Facebook the best way?

Wallace Henry Hulstone 1919-1988 married Sarah W Lester 1921-

I can not find a death date for Sarah ?????

Her and Wallace married September 1919

I have been able to find 1 child born 1948 l was able to find a possible marriage for peter to a woman named Pauline carter they married 1968

I am looking for ----

Death Date for Sarah W Lester ????

Did Sarah and Wallace have more children ????

Did Peter and Pauline have kids ????

All this is around the West Bromwich area and Staffordshire

I was also able to find the parents for Sarah W Lester 1921

Father name-- Alfred Lester
Mother name Sarah Lloyd

They married in September 1919

I can not find a birth record for Sarah Lloyd and Alfred

Birth ???? Death ???

I was also able to track some of Sarah siblings

Sarah-1921
Alfred-1924-1924
Dorothy 1926
Harold 1928
Norman 1935

thank you




ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jun 2020 13:23

Yes, that info is posted already.

Amanda

Amanda Report 13 Jun 2020 13:10

Hi

I have done some further research and l have tracked Elizabeth mother Lydia on the 1951 censors

It seems that Lydia was born Lydia kent 1849-1850 she went on to marry 1 st time to George Talbot

they had Elizabeth
Amy
Bertha

Her 2nd marriage was to Moses Jackson

I don't know if George died ????? or they divorced

any information on any of these people will be very helpful

Kind regards

Amanda

Amanda Report 13 Jun 2020 13:10

Hi

I have done some further research and l have tracked Elizabeth mother Lydia on the 1951 censors

It seems that Lydia was born Lydia kent 1849-1850 she went on to marry 1 st time to George Talbot

they had Elizabeth
Amy
Bertha

Her 2nd marriage was to Moses Jackson

I don't know if George died ????? or they divorced

any information on any of these people will be very helpful

Kind regards

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jun 2020 12:53

The children's births:

TALBOT, BERTHA mms KENT
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in MARKET DRAYTON Volume 06A Page 763

TALBOT, AMY mms KENT
GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in MARKET DRAYTON Volume 06A Page 773

TALBOT, ELIZABETH mms KENT
GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in MARKET DRAYTON Volume 06A Page 808

TALBOT, ALFRED mms KENT
GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in MARKET DRAYTON Volume 06A Page 739

JACKSON, ALBERT mms KENT
GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 3

JACKSON, LYDIA mms KENT
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in MARKET DRAYTON Volume 06A Page 782



George Talbot's death:

George Talbot
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: George Talbot
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Registration Year: 1877
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 37
Registration district: Market Drayton
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 545


Lydia remarried very quickly. With three small children to support, who can blame her in those days:

Moses Jackson
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Moses Jackson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 20 Dec 1877
Marriage Place: Ashley, Stafford, England
Spouse: Lydia Talbot
FHL Film Number: 1278803
Reference ID: item 16-18 p 84 n167

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jun 2020 12:51

For our reference:

Elizabeth Talbot
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Talbot
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relationship to Head: Step Daughter
Mother: Lydia Jackson
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashley, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Ashley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Ashley Village
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Market Drayton
Sub registration district: Moreton Say
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 2673
Folio: 56
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Moses Jackson 31
Lydia Jackson 32
Elizabeth Talbot 10
Amy Talbot 7
Burtha Talbot 5
Lydia Jackson 2
Albert Jackson 1


Are you sure Lydia was unmarried when she married Moses, and that therefore the children were illegitimate?

This looks like her with a previous husband in 1871:

Lydia Salbott
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Lydia Salbott
[Lydia Talbot]
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: 1849
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Gaton Staffordshire England
Civil Parish: Ashley
Ecclesiastical parish: Lichfield
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Market Drayton
Sub-registration district: Moreton Say
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 18
Piece: 2799
Folio: 21
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
George Salbott 32
Lydia Salbott 22
Alfred Salbott 16/12
Elizabeth Salbott 4/12



Lydia Kent
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Lydia Kent
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 27 Dec 1868
Marriage Place: Ashley, Stafford, England
Father: William Kent
Spouse: George Talbot
FHL Film Number: 1278803
Reference ID: item 16-18 p 64 n128

Amanda

Amanda Report 13 Jun 2020 12:04

Hi

Elizabeth Talbot, we know she was born out of wedlock.

can anyone help me to find her father ??

Does Elizabeth have the same father as her siblings, Amy and Bertha ?????

Was Lydia her mother married before she married Moses ????

I can't find a birth record for Lydia ?????

Moses Birth ???????

Any married for Moses and Lydia children

Lydia Jackson 1879
Albert Jackson 1880

They lived around the Staffordshire and Shropshire area

Thank you


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jun 2020 11:40

What is your question?

You seem to be jumping around all over the place, rather than concentrating on one line at a time You'll risk confusing yourself - and others - by this.

Amanda

Amanda Report 13 Jun 2020 11:39

Hi

I have been doing some research on Elizabeth Talbot 1871-1951

I have tracked her on the 1881 census

It would seem she is living with her mother and siblings looks like Elizabeth has 2 other siblings and all 3 are born outside of marriage

Elizebeth Talbot 1871-1951
Amy Talbot 1874
Bertha Talbot 1876

Their mother is named Lydia birth 1849/1850 she went on to marry a Moses Jackson in 1877

Moses birth about 1850

Moses and Lydia had 2 more children

Lydia 1879
Albert 1880

Thank you



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jun 2020 11:34

Please be careful when naming people on here who are probably living. They may not wish to be discussed on this insecure site

1939 for Hilda Lydia
62 Keary Street, Stoke-On-Trent C.B., Staffordshire, England
Wallace A Houson 01 Aug 1899 Male Postman Married 119 1
Hilda L Houson 14 Jul 1901 Female Domestic Duties Married 119 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed
Wallace M Houson 19 Jul 1930 Male School Single 119 5

Deaths Dec 1975 (>99%)
Houson Hilda Lydia 14JE1901 Stoke/T 30 1823

Deaths Dec 1971 (>99%)
HOUSON Wallace Albert 1Au1899 Stoke/T 9b 1578

First name(s) WALLACE WILLIAM
Last name HOUSON
Gender Male
Birth day 19
Birth month 7
Birth year 1930
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 2006
District Stoke on Trent
District number 7371B
Register number B92F
Entry number 106
Date of registration mm/yy 1206
County Staffordshire

Wallace jnr married in 1951 - you can find the record on freebmd

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jun 2020 08:30

Laura died in infancy. No sign of the middle name Eva at either birth or death:

HULSTONE, LAURA mms TALBOT
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in WOLSTANTON Volume 06B Page 152

Laura Hulstone
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Laura Hulstone
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Registration Year: 1897
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Wolstanton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 83

Amanda

Amanda Report 12 Jun 2020 22:18

Hi

I have been doing some checks on William Hulstone 1899-1966

I have found is parents

Elizabeth Talbot 1871-1951
Thomas hulstone 1872-

They married 1895 tracking them on censors it seems they were both born out of wedlock.

they had 5 children

Laura Eva Hulstone 1897
George Thomas 1898
William Henry 1899
Hilda Lydia 1901
Olive Amy 1908

I have been working on George 1898 he married Hilda Jane Hughes in 1924
by the looks of it, they had 2 children Hilda Jean 1929 and George Frederick 1937

Hilda possible marriage match to Frank Keeling married 1950 ????
George married Beryl Marriott
2 possible children

Lesley Jayne 1965
David John 1969

if anyone can help to fill in some blanks it will be very much appreciated

Kind regards



alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Jun 2020 15:39

I can find 2 births for Hulstone/ Jackson on https://www.freebmd.org.uk after 1951.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jun 2020 15:25

You were given Dennis's marriage info on June 6th

BTW - I know I'm being picky, but.......................people have children Goats have kids

;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

Any children born to the marriages will show on freebmd.

You realise, I'm sure, that you can't include ANY living people on your tree on GR without permission from each of them

Amanda

Amanda Report 12 Jun 2020 15:15

Hi,

Thank you for all the information, sorry not been on been so busy with work.

I have been doing some research about Lillian and William Hulstone kids. But l need a bit more help.

there are

Wallace Henry Hulstone-1919-1988
Ronald Albert 1926
Dennis George 1929-1992
Dorothy Emily 1933-2007
Margaret Ann 1941

Dennis married Margaret Jackson in 1951 l was not able to find any kids born to them ?????

Margaret Ann married Derek Pritchard birth 1933 they married in 1961
again l was not able to find any kids born in their marriage.

Wallace Henry married Sarah W Lester birth 1921 they married in 1941 they had a son Peter born 1948 think he married a Pauline carter in 1968

Did Wallace and Sarah have more kids?

Dorothy married a Clauid R Hollins in 1951
I was not able to find any kids born into there marriage

Dennis l don't know if her married

Any help with be brilliant thanks

Kind regards

Amanda


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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 7 Jun 2020 05:27

Not sure these are twins. There's a difference on 9 between the page numbers.

LEESE, FLORRIE EVANS
GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 289
LEESE, MAY EVANS
GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 298

Rose

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Jun 2020 21:23

Marriage for Margaret in 1961.

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Jun 2020 21:20

Marriages Sep 1951 (>99%)
HOLLINS Claude R HULSTONE Stoke 9b 1669
HULSTONE Dorothy E HOLLINS Stoke 9b 1669



United Kingdom Deaths

First name(s) Dorothy Emily
Last name Hollins
Sex Female
Age 74
Birth year 1933
Birth date 06 Jun 1933
Death year 2007
Death date 09 Nov 2007
Residence Stoke-On-Trent
Area Stoke-On-Trent
Geo direction West Midlands
Postcode area ST
Postcode district ST4
Postcode sector ST4 4

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Jun 2020 21:14

Marriages Sep 1952 (>99%)

Hulstone Dennis G Jackson Stoke 9b 1559
JACKSON Margaret C HULSTONE Stoke 9b 1559


England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007


First name(s) DENNIS GEORGE
Last name HULSTONE
Gender Male
Birth day 16
Birth month 10
Birth year 1929
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1991
District Stoke on Trent
Register number 991
County Staffordshire
Volume 30
Page 1698