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grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 17 Jun 2020 07:37

Try a DNA test, both you and the lady in Canada, and see if you have a link.

Marlene

Marlene Report 16 Jun 2020 17:51

Hi ErikaH,
I have been in touch with a granddaughter of a John Hy Eaton years ago via Ancestry, she's the daughter of Ernest who was sent to Canada from Sheffield as a "home child" when his father John Henry Eaton had placed him in the childrens homes.
We couldn't prove that we had the same John Henry Eaton as a grandfather because she knew nothing of her grandfather let alone my father. There was no mention of her John Henry Eaton fathering an illegitimate child, her dad Ernest lived in Canada so he had no connection with his parents.
I know lots of families didn't know a lot of skeletons but, there must have been a Goodison, Wildgoose or Eaton who had knowledge that they passed down.
Thank you anyway for all your efforts in trying, it's much appreciated.
Regards,
Marlene

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jun 2020 15:38

The person On Ancestry whose notes I mentioned has a name totally different from yours, and appears to be JH Eaton’s granddaughter

Marlene

Marlene Report 16 Jun 2020 14:54

Thanks for the information everyone which is about where I am, I think the detail on Ancestry is either mine or been taken from my limited knowledge.
The problem I have is that I really don't know if the John Henry Eaton I've researched is the correct one, no family to ask and no detail other than on my father's discharge document from Sheffield Workhouse it says" relative or friend "John Hy Eaton father".
I as hoping there would be a Goodiosn or Eaton descendant who would have heard of this family story.
I have no photos of these families other than a photo of my father's mother given to him by his "adopted" mother
Regards,
Marlene

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jun 2020 13:19

The notes with the tree on Ancestry make interesting reading

It might be worth taking out their 14-day free trial, and contacting the 'owner'

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jun 2020 13:14

More about the grinder - just in case:

This is the man I was investigating a few days ago, but then didn't post because there were so many John H Eatons in the area.

John Hy Eaton
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: John Hy Eaton
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 19 Sep 1880
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 68 Outram Road
Residence Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation: Grinder Edge Tools
Schedule Number: 97
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: KIXG
Registration district: Sheffield 510 5
Household Members:
Name
Thomas A Siddall - 25 Nov 1879, married
Annie E Siddall - 14 Nov 1890, married
John Hy Eaton

Thomas Siddall is probably a cousin of James - James's mms was Siddall (see birth reg later in this post.)



Children's births:

EATON, ELIZABETH mms HINCHLIFF
GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 678

EATON, JOHN mms HINCHLIFF
GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 814



John senior's birth:

EATON, JOHN HENRY mms SIDDALL
GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 344


Parents' marriage:

Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)
Eaton Henry Ecclesall B. 9c 422
Siddall Clara Ecclesall B. 9c 422

In 1911 John was at 7/7 Bailey Street (Erika posted 1911 above).
His mother was just along the road at 1/7 Bailley Street:

Clara Eaton
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Clara Eaton
Age in 1911: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 1 House 7 CT Bailey St Sheffield
Marital status: Widowed
Registration district: Sheffield
Registration District Number: 510
Sub-registration district: South Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Piece: 27854
Household Members:
Name Age
Clara Eaton 55
Harry Eaton 17
Horace Eaton 9

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jun 2020 11:49

Gleadless Road can be found on the 1911 census, but isn't relevant in that year to the 'grinder'

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jun 2020 11:45

Have you tried to contact the people on GR who are connected?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jun 2020 11:44

This is the marriage of the 'grinder'

Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
Eaton John Henry Sheffield 9c 775
Hinchliffe Sarah Ann Sheffield 9c 775

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Court House, 11, Hollis Croft, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

John Eaton Head Married Male 20 1881 Edge Tool Grinder Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Sarah A Eaton Wife Married Female 17 1884 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England



EATON, SARAH (MMN) HINCHLIFFE
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 564

1911 Census For England & Wales
7 /7 Bailey Street Sheffield, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

John Henry Eaton Head Married Male 31 1880 Edeytool Grinder Yorkshire Sheffield
Sarah Ann Eaton Wife Married Female 27 1884 - Yorkshire Sheffield
Elizabeth Eaton Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Yorkshire Sheffield
John Eaton Son - Male 3 1908 - Yorkshire Sheffield
Elizabeth Eaton's Census Details

Posting this info merely because it relates to the man whose death you found. Not in any way saying it's the man in your family line

He is in a well-documented tree on Ancestry, which says that both he and Sarah re-married

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jun 2020 11:24

1939

174 Gleadless Road, Sheffield C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Richard W Collins 07 Apr 1877 Male Gardener (Retired) Married 330 1

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jun 2020 11:23

Just becasue it's Sheffield
1939

68 Outram Road, Sheffield C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Thomas A Siddall 25 Nov 1879 Male Railway Drayman Married 97 1
Annie E Siddall 14 Nov 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 97 2
John Henry Eaton 19 Sep 1880 Male Grinder Edge Tools Married 97 3

Marlene

Marlene Report 15 Jun 2020 10:18

Just to add: the only evidence of John Hy Eaton is an address given as 174, Gleadless Road Heeley, Sheffield but, I never found that house number on any censuses etc., can anyone please?
Regards,
Marlene

Marlene

Marlene Report 15 Jun 2020 10:10

Thank you everyone for your input. After researching my paternal family since 1992 when my father died, I knew nothing about his background other than he'd been "adopted".
The information I have is that he was placed in Sheffield Workhouse by a Mrs. Lattimore from 10 Florence Place (the address where his mother had died 6 weeks earlier. His name was given as Laurence Wildgoose (birth not registered)
A few weeks later he was discharged from Sheffield Workhouse by John Hy Eaton, "relative father" it says on the discharge paper from Sheffield Archives.
His birth was then registered as Wildgoose Thomas G. August 1923
September 1923 his Baptism at Nether Green Church is Thomas Greatbatch, son of Elizabeth and Thomas who were aged 58 (she) and 42 (he).
I obtained a death certificate for a John Henry Eaton (grinder) which gave me no clues, his grave is a communal one so no family details to go on.
This Eaton/Goodison family connection has been an enigma for me for years.
I was hoping to find living relatives of Eaton or Goodison who may have anecdotal memories of this tragic family.
Does anyone know if 10 Florence Place Heeley was a "back to back" house for there being more than one family living there, I've seen a picture on Picture Sheffield and I remember Florence Place from my childhood. .Moses Preen incidentally married 3 times, two of his wives were sisters, Pauline Cartledge died at Florence Place along with her daughter Laura in the 'flu epidemic, he then married Pauline's sister Annie Lattimore nee Cartledge. So many deaths at that house, it's sad.
Anyway, thanks again and, any more pointers in finding living Goodison or Eaton relatives.
Regards,
Marlene

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jun 2020 15:21

At least 6 GR members have Walter AND Ethel in trees on here

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jun 2020 15:16

1911
Walter Wildgoose Head Married Male 27 1884 Carter Sheffield
Ethel Wildgoose Wife Married Female 25 1886 - Heeley
Lily Wildgoose Daughter - Female 3 1908 - Heeley

Births Jun 1911 (>99%)
Wildgoose Albert Ecclesall B. 9c 462
Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Wildgoose Walter Goodison Sheffield 9c 1007
Births Mar 1915 (>99%)
WILDGOOSE Minnie Goodison Ecclesall B. 9c 937
Births Sep 1923
Wildgoose Thomas G Goodinson Ecclesall B. 9c 750

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Jun 2020 15:03

What a dreadful story!


Welcome to the boards, Marlene.

You say you are researching your paternal line.
What do you know already about John H Eaton?

I've tried researching John Henry Eaton - but there are several men of that name in Sheffield area in censuses, marriages, etc, and all pretty close in age.

If you know his occupation, even, that would narrow it down.




alviegal

alviegal Report 11 Jun 2020 20:13

Did you know Walter and Ethel had another child, Walter?

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Wildgoose Walter Goodison Sheffield 9c 1007

He sadly died when his nightshirt caught fire.

Walter Wildgoose. aged five years, of 10, Florence Place, Heeley, was burned to death last night in particularly distressing circumstances. The boy was severely scalded about six weeks ago, and was well on the way to recovery. He was left in the bedroom for a few minutes last night but got out of bed, and his clothes became ignited at the fire. He was terribly burned and on arrival at the Sheffield Royal Hospital life was extinct. His father was recently killed while serving in France and the widowed mother has several other children.
02 March 1918 - Sheffield Daily Telegraph - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 11 Jun 2020 19:51

Fred
Last name Lattimore
Marriage year 1913
Marriage date 15 Mar 1913
Marriage place Sheffield, St Paul,Norton Lees
Spouse's first name(s) Annie Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Cartledge
Groom's first name(s) Fred
Groom's last name Lattimore
Groom's age 31
Groom's marital status Bachelor
Bride's first name(s) Annie Elizabeth
Bride's last name Cartledge
Bride's age 22
Bride's marital status Spinster
Groom's father's first name(s) Edward
Groom's father's last name Lattimore
Bride's father's first name(s) George
Bride's father's last name Cartledge
County Yorkshire (West Riding)



Fred died in 1921 and Annie remarried.


10 Florence Place, Sheffield C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

(5 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Moses Preen 13 Jun 1871 Male Radial Driller Hardy Rick Married 130 1
Annie Elizabeth Preen 01 Jul 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 130 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
George William Webster 22 Jul 1908 Male Plasterer Widowed 130 4
William Preen (Webster) 04 Jul 1935 Male Child Single 130 5

malyon

malyon Report 11 Jun 2020 19:24

i don't see a child born with the name eaton 1923 so he was not regestered in fathers name

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Jun 2020 18:38

Look for the names in search all member trees’ to try to find any connections on here

What are you actually looking for?