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Barbara

Barbara Report 1 Dec 2020 10:59

Hello,
I'm wondering if anyone can help?
I'm currently researching the Irish side of my family, and I know that Mary-Ann Honey came to London, England when she was a teenager.
She was born around 1815.
She married George Peek in 1831, who was much older, and they went on to have about 9 children, one of whom was Jane Peek. Jane gave birth to Ellen Peek (Jane was unmarried) who went on to marry a Channell. Montague Channell was their son (my maternal grandfather). He was born in the 1880s.
Will have more information once my cousin gets back to me.
We do have quite an extensive tree, but finding it difficult to find out Mary-Ann Honey's background in Ireland.
Many thanks.
Barbara.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 1 Dec 2020 11:22

Working backwards...........

Name: Montague Channell...........Postman
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1888
Marriage Date: 6 Jun 1915
Marriage Place: St Luke, South Kensington, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: William Channell............brass furbisher
Spouse: Mabel Florence Fisher
Register Type: Parish Register

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Dec 2020 11:25

NOT the1890's

CHANNELL, MONTAGUE (MMN) PEEK
GRO Reference: 1888 S Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 685

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Dec 2020 11:25

Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%)
Channell William Lambeth 1d 773 S
PEEK Ellen Lambeth 1d 773


Name: William Channell
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 33
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1853
Marriage Date: 31 Oct 1886
Marriage Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Father: Alfred Channell
Spouse: Ellen Peek
Birth Date: abt 1858
Father: John Peek

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Dec 2020 11:28

1861

Name: Mary Ann Peck
[Mary Ann Peek]
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: 1814
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Heston
Ecclesiastical parish: Heston St Leonard
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration District: Brentford
Sub-registration District: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 48
Piece: 773
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Peck 47
John Peck 29
Precilla Peck 21
George Peck 17
Elizabeth J Peck 13
Ellen Peck 2
Thomas Johnson 20

Mary

Mary Report 1 Dec 2020 11:31

She married George Peek 24/4/1831 in Middlesex and Thomas Johnson in 1862

She was born about 1814/16 in Ireland according to census returns died 1885

Maryb

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Dec 2020 11:33

1841
Name: George Peek
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Heston
Hundred: Isleworth
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration District: Brentford
Sub-registration District: Isleworth
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 658
Book: 2
Folio: 10
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
George Peek 40
Mary Ann Peek 25
John Peek 9
Ann Peek 8
Jane Peek 5
Sarah Peek 4
Mar Ann Peek 3
Priscilla Peek 1

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Dec 2020 11:35

Get a copy of the cert of the marriage to Johnson to see whether she named a father.

Only the Banns are online, so no help there


Name: Mary Ann Peek
Gender: Female
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 12 Oct 1862
Marriage Banns Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Spouse: Thomas Johnson
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Thomas Johnson
Gender: Male
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 8 Dec 1861
Marriage Banns Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Spouse: Mary Ann Peek


I can't see a marriage, so you may be at a dead end, as you've no way of identifying her father.


Your suggestion of her birth having been in the 1840's is not borne out by the facts

Maddie

Maddie Report 1 Dec 2020 11:41

for ref
Name: Mary Ann Honey
Marriage Date: 24 Apr 1831
Marriage Place: St James, Piccadilly (St James, Westminster), London, Westminster, England
Parish as it Appears: St James, Westminster
Search Photos: Search for 'St James, Piccadilly (St James, Westminster)' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Spouse George Peek

Name: Mary Ann Peek
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Heston
Hundred: Isleworth
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration District: Brentford
Sub-registration District: Isleworth
Neighbors:
Piece: 658
Book: 2
Folio: 10
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
George Peek 40 ---- 1801 middlesex
Mary Ann Peek 25
John Peek 9
Ann Peek 8
Jane Peek 5
Sarah Peek 4
Mar Ann Peek 3
Priscilla Peek

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Dec 2020 11:46

She'd knocked off a few years...................she was actually old enough to be his mother

1871
Name: Mary Ann Johnson
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: 1823
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone Middlesex England
Civil Parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Tottenham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration District: Edmonton
Sub-registration District: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household Schedule Number: 198
Piece: 1338
Folio: 105
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Johnson 36
Mary Ann Johnson 48

Based on Mary's info.....................................

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Dec 2020 11:47

I see the poster has been doing some editing - without acknowledging the responses

I'm outa here :-( :-(

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Dec 2020 12:26

Welcome to the boards, Barbara.


Unfortunately, Mary Ann Johnson in 1871 posted above is not Mary Ann nee Honey.

1871 gives her birth as c1823, in Middlesex.

So does 1861 - when Mary Ann nee Honey (born Ireland) is on the 1861 census as Peek/Peck:

Mary Ann Johnson
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Johnson
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Johnson
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration District: Hackney Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 154
Piece: 253
Folio: 88
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Johnson 27
Mary Ann Johnson 38

Maddie

Maddie Report 1 Dec 2020 12:27

1851 confims birth place

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

North Hyde, Heston, Brentford, Middlesex, England
lationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Ann Peek Head Widow Female 38 1813 Grocer Ireland
John Peek Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Clerk Of Brickfield Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Ann Peek Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Martha Peek Daughter - Female 8 1843 Scholar Lampton, Middlesex, England
George Peek Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Northfleet, Kent, England
Alice Peek Daughter - Female 4 1847 Scholar Northfleet, Kent, England
Elizabeth Peek Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Northfleet, Kent, England
Emma Peek Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Northfleet, Kent, England
Sarah Groves Visitor Widow Female 39 1812 Laundress Brentford, Middlesex, England
Eliza Groves Visitor - Female 16 1835 Servant Brentford, Middlesex, England
William Hereward Lodger Unmarried Male 17 1834 Engine Driver Woodstock, Oxon, England

Name: George Peek
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 4 Feb 1848
Burial Place: Isleworth, Middlesex, England
FHL Film Number: 585451
Reference ID: 202

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Dec 2020 12:35

This is Mary Ann nee Honey in 1871:

Marya Johnson
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Marya Johnson
[Mary Ann Johnson]
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: 1814
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Heston
Ecclesiastical parish: Church Heston
Town: Lampton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration District: Brentford
Sub-registration District: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household Schedule Number: 55
Piece: 1313
Folio: 91
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Marya Johnson 57 [ Mary A on image ]
Ellen Pick 12 - grand-daughter


Thomas is also with them, though the Ancestry transcription misses him out.

Thomas Johnson, head, married, 40, brick builder (?), Drayton, Middlesex.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Dec 2020 12:41

Possible death ??

Deaths Jun 1885 (>99%)
JOHNSON Mary Ann 72 Brentford 3a 32

However, that's no help finding her birth/parents/ etc.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Dec 2020 12:44

1881:

Mary Ann Johnson
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Johnson
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Thomas Johnson
Gender: Female
Where born: Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Heston
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Lampton Parade
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Labourer Wife
Registration District: Brentford
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors:
Piece: 1339
Folio: 37
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Johnson 49
Mary Ann Johnson 66
Ellen Peek 22 - grand-daughter
William Peek 46 - nephew
Annie Robinson 11 - visitor
Ellen Janitt 6 - visitor

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Dec 2020 12:47

The marriage cert will tell you her father's name - if known:
:

Thomas Johnson
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Thomas Johnson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 16 Nov 1862
Marriage Place: St. Mary'S, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Spouse: Mary Ann Peck
FHL Film Number: 1041669
Reference ID: item 1 p 155


Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%)
Johnson Thomas Lambeth 1d 586
Peak Mary Ann Lambeth 1d 586

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Dec 2020 12:51

Aha!
Father's name Thomas. Deceased, mercantile clerk:


Mary Ann Peak
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Mary Ann Peak - widow
[Mary Ann Honey]
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 17 Nov 1862
Marriage Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Father: Thomas Honey
Spouse: Thomas Johnson
Register Type: Parish Register


Banns posted earlier by ErikaH, but this is the actual marriage - as also in my previous post.

Maddie

Maddie Report 1 Dec 2020 13:07

Name: Mary Ann Peek
Gender: Female
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 12 Oct 1862
Marriage Banns Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Spouse: Thomas Johnson
Register Type: Parish Register

a widow

safc

safc Report 1 Dec 2020 14:12

????

Record Transcription:
Irish Parish Register Marriages, Ffolliott Collection

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Honey
Role Groom
Marriage year 1812
Marriage date 03 Feb 1812
Parish -
Diocese Cloyne
Spouse's first name(s) Jane
Spouse's last name Wilkinson
County Cork
Country Ireland
Project ffolliott Parish Registers
Folder Marriage index, 1600-1845
Event type Marriages
Record set Irish Parish Register Marriages, Ffolliott Collection
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Ireland