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ArgyllGran
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22 Oct 2024 10:27 |
Take care, Michael. We look forward to hearing from you again when you are able.
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Michael
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27 Oct 2024 01:23 |
Many thanks ArgyllGran
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Michael
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30 May 2025 02:36 |
In the short time that I have to spare between caring for my wife, I have been unable to To confirm the parents of John Arthur (wife Sarah Keen) Name John Arthur Event Type Baptism Baptism Date 3 Apr 1801 Baptism Place Snowshill, Gloucestershire, England Parish as it Appears Snowshill Father John Arthur Mother Elizth Arthur
Elizabeth WHO? John must have been born abt 1770?
I have found that Henry Arthur bapt 1801 had a brother Charles bapt 9/1826 and buried 12/1826
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ArgyllGran
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30 May 2025 08:44 |
Welcome back, Michael.
You mean Henry Arthur, baptised 1828 . The 1801 baptism was his father John.
Yes, he had a brother Charles, born and died 1826, Bourton on the Hill , parents John and Sarah. Also Mary 1831 (who is on the 1851 census with Henry and their parents, already posted) - and William 1834-37.
Re Henry's grandparents, John and Elizabeth, such old records give very little helpful information. Unfortunately, you may never know any more about them.
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ErikaH
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30 May 2025 10:18 |
I think you would find it helpful to compile an accurate family tree, to which you can refer, to avoid getting confused about the generations.
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ErikaH
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30 May 2025 10:40 |
I don't know which website you use for research, but there's a tree on Ancestry which suggests that John Arthur was born c1768 in Blockley, parents George Arthur and Anne Buggin.
Ancestry trees are notoriously unreliable, so you would have to do some very careful checking before accepting this as in any way accurate.
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ErikaH
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30 May 2025 10:44 |
Name John Arthur Birth Year abt 1768 Age 2y Residence Year 1770 Residence Snowshill Reference Number P52 OV 3/1/1/27
Name John Arthur Event Type Baptism Baptism Date 7 Aug 1768 Baptism Place Blockley, Gloucestershire, England Parish as it Appears Blockley Father George Arthur Mother Ann Arthur
Name George Arthur Gender Male Event Type Marriage Marriage Date 13 Aug 1764 Marriage Place Blockley, Gloucestershire, England Spouse Ann Baggins
Name Thos. Barnet Arthur Event Type Baptism Baptism Date 23 Jul 1780 Baptism Place Snowshill, Gloucestershire, England Father George Arthur Mother Ann Arthur
Name Wm. Arthur Event Type Baptism Baptism Date 21 May 1775 Baptism Place Snowshill, Gloucestershire, England Father George Arthur Mother Ann Arthur
Name George Arthur Event Type Baptism Baptism Date 13 Nov 1765 Baptism Place Blockley, Gloucestershire, England Father George Arthur Mother Ann Arthur
Name Anne Arthur Event Type Baptism Baptism Date 28 Apr 1771 Baptism Place Blockley, Gloucestershire, England Father George Arthur Mother Ann Arthur
Name Ann Arthur Event Type Burial Burial Date 10 Nov 1773 Burial Place Snowshill, Gloucestershire, England Father George Mother Ann
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30 May 2025 11:24 |
When you have had a break from research one should go back to check if new record sets have apppeared or old ones updated.
Gloucestershire wills to 1858 have been indexed by Ancestry and if you haven’t already you should check them out.
added: just a thought. I know you are loking at a Y match but have you done a dna test with other sites? They may have a wider match list.
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ErikaH
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4 Jun 2025 15:06 |
Trying a different approach..................
Name Joseph Cyrus Arters Gender Male Birth Date 9 Mar 1793 Birth Place Lewistown, Mifflin County, Pennsylvania, United States of America Death Date 27 Jan 1875 Cemetery Youngsville Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place Youngsville, Warren County, Pennsylvania, United States of America Father Richard Arters Mother Mary Ann Arters Spouse Hannah Pelton Arters Children Lydia E. Darling Hiram Arters Cyrus F. Arters Eliza Louisa Dunn George Washington Arters Cyrenus Y. Arters Hannah Rebecca Smith
There is a tree on Ancestry with the above-named Joseph, BUT the person who compiled it has the following 'info' for his father...................
Richard J Arters (Arthur) (Army Surgeon) 1738–1843 Birth 26 NOV 1738 • Stepney, (E) London England
Death 1843 • Tidioute, Warren County, Pennsylvania, United States of America
.....which anyone can see is somewhat far-fetched!
THIS is the man's burial record
Name Richard Arters Gender Male Birth Date Nov 1738 Birth Place London, City of London, Greater London, England Death Date Dec 1825 Death Place Tidioute, Warren County, Pennsylvania, United States of America Cemetery Old Deerfield Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place Tidioute, Warren County, Pennsylvania, United States of America Spouse Mary Ann Arters Children John Arthurs; Elizabeth Jane Magill; Thomas J. Arters; Mehitable Jones; Mary Wollaston; James Arters; Joseph Cyrus Arters
This is purported to be Richard's father:
Name Thomas Arters Gender Male Record Type Baptism Baptism Date 2 Aug 1713 Baptism Place Saint Mary, Whitechapel: Whitechapel High Street, Tower Hamlets, Tower Hamlets, Middlesex, England Father Isaac Arters Mother Elizabeth Arters Register Type Parish Register Reference Number 18025860 Additional Reference Number 184418
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ErikaH
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4 Jun 2025 15:20 |
Name Richard Arters Gender Male Baptism Date 26 Nov 1738 Baptism Place St Mary Whitechapel,Stepney,London,England Father Thomas Arters Mother Elizabeth
Name Thomas Arters Gender Male Marriage Date 21 Dec 1736 Marriage Place Saint Botolph Bishopsgate,London,London,England Spouse Elizabeth Smith
Name Thomas Arters Gender Male Death Age 47 Birth Date 1713 Death Date abt 1760 Burial Date 19 Jan 1760 Burial Place Whitechapel, Middlesex, England FHL Film Number 94711 Reference ID V27/1760
Name Isaac Arthurs Gender Male Marriage Date 11 Aug 1706 Marriage Place Saint Giles Cripplegate,London,London,England Spouse Elizabeth Pope
Name Isaac Arters Probate Date 2 Apr 1750 Parish St Mary Matfelon Whitechapel County Middlesex
The above Will is on Ancestry and within its text is a reference to property in Smiths Lane, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, among others.
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ErikaH
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4 Jun 2025 15:23 |
Tenuous...................based solely on the coincidence of location when compared with burial of Richard in 1825
Name Randall T Astern [Randall T Arters] Age in 1910 24 Birth Date 1886 [1886] Birthplace New York Home in 1910 Tidioute, Warren, Pennsylvania, USA Sheet Number 10a Street Grant Street Race White Gender Male Relation to Head of House Son Marital Status Single Father's Birthplace Pennsylvania Mother's Birthplace New York Native Tongue English Occupation Cutlerman Industry Cutlery Work Employer, Employee or Other Wage Earner Able to read Y Able to Write Y Enumeration District Number 0175 Out of Work N Number of Weeks Out of Work 12 Enumerated Year 1910 William H Astern 58 Head Alice B Astern 54 Wife Randall T Astern 24 Son
In 1950, Randall T Arters - who never married - was in Prison.
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Michael
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10 Jun 2025 03:21 |
Thank you all for your helpful responses on 30 May thru 5 June. My own fault for confusions since I use/have used too many websites "more haste less speed" I first used Genes then added Ancestry plus others. Much of Ancestry lists "easy to find" info. I am endeavouring to document the correct info that I have to paper, also adding it to my Legacy file. Will keep trying. If there are no objections I plan to share the U.S Arthur info with my cousin in Maryland.
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ArgyllGran
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10 Jun 2025 08:34 |
The US info is all available on genealogy websites, including Ancestry .
Use it as you would any other such info.
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ErikaH
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11 Jun 2025 14:24 |
If, as your last post suggests, you have access to Ancestry, you can find for yourself all the info I have posted..................
One more snippet............
Name Thomas Arters (Arthur) Gender M (Male) Birth Date août 1713 (Aug 1713) Birth Place St Mary, White Chapel, Tower Hamlets (St Mary), England, United Kingdom Death Date janv. 1760 (Jan 1760) Death Place Whitechapel, London (London), London, England, United Kingdom Father Isaac Arters Mother Elizabeth Pope Spouse Elizabeth Smith?? Child Richard Arters OR Arthur View on Geneanet https://gw.geneanet.org/irenebaldwin?n=arters+arthur&oc=&p=thomas
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