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Terence

Terence Report 5 Dec 2023 17:00

Hello everyone. I am trying to get the birth registration ,volume and page references for a William Clarkson born in the registration Quarter of jan-feb-mar 1875 in Preston,Lancashire,England.I know he was baptised on the 26th of December 1875 at St. Johns Preston Lancashire,child of William Clarkson and Maria,abode Corry st. Preston,lancs.Iwould be very grateful for any help on this. thankyou Terry

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Dec 2023 17:40

Go to freebmd and look

Or the GRO site where you can input MMN

Both sites FREE

Also try LancsBMD. - another FREE site which gives MMN in many instances

Kay????

Kay???? Report 5 Dec 2023 18:10

Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
Clarkson William Ormskirk 8b 775 Scan available - click to view
Clarkson William Leeds 9b 449 Scan available - click to view
Clarkson William Henry Chorley 8e 516 Scan available - click to view
Clarkson William Thomas Burnley 8e 195 Scan available - click to view.

Births Jun 1875 (>99%)
Clarkson William Ecclesall B. 9c 344 Scan available - click to view.

Births Sep 1875 (>99%)
Clarkson William Greenwich 1d 849 Scan available - click to view
Clarkson William Robert W. Derby 8b 338 Scan available - click to view.


Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
Clarkson William Preston 8e 537 Scan available - click to view
Clarkson William Chorlton 8c 740 Scan available - click to view
Clarkson William Rotherham 9c 673 Scan available - click to view
Clarkson William Alexander Rochdale 8e 57 Scan available - click to view
Clarkson William Gibbon Alderbury 5a 180 Scan available - click to view
Clarkson William Littlefair Teesdale 10a 258 Scan available - click to view.


These are all the birth registrations showing forall of 1875...

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Dec 2023 18:26

Why do you say the birth was in JFM if you haven’t found the registration? His DoB is not recorded on the baptism on LanOPC.

His birth year is recorded as 1876 on 1881 census, so his birth would have been after the end of the first qtr

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Dec 2023 18:32

In 1891, William born 1876 is GRANDSON of Maria.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Dec 2023 18:41

There is a birth in Preston in 1875 on LancsBMD with MMN Clarkson

Kay????

Kay???? Report 5 Dec 2023 18:43

and all those showing for 1876,


Births Mar 1876 (>99%)
CLARKSON William Burnley 8e 285 Scan available - click to view
CLARKSON William Henry Lincoln 7a 581 Scan available - click to view

Births Jun 1876 (>99%)
CLARKSON William Nantwich 8a 356 Scan available - click to view
CLARKSON William Oldham 8d 761 Scan available - click to view
CLARKSON William Oldham 8d 791 Scan available - click to view
CLARKSON William Firth Sheffield 9c 564 Scan available - click to view
CLARKSON William Henry Liverpool 8b 171 Scan available - click to view


Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
CLARKSON William Newcastle T. 10b 27 Scan available - click to view
CLARKSON William Leeds 9b 598 Scan available - click to view
CLARKSON William Salford 8d 154 Scan available - click to view
CLARKSON William Edgar Bethnal Green 1c 242 Scan available - click to view
CLARKSON William Jennings Leeds 9b 472 Scan available - click to view

Births Dec 1876 (>99%)
CLARKSON William Teesdale 10a 264 Scan available - click to view
CLARKSON William Gateshead 10a 904 Scan available - click to view
CLARKSON William Preston 8e 566 Scan available - click to view
CLARKSON William Fylde 8e 656 Scan available - click to view
CLARKSON William Henry Wetherby 9a 119 Scan available - click to view

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Dec 2023 18:44

Baptism 1875. On LanOPC - as per OP

Three earlier baptisms with same parents also on LanOPC

One, Maria, has her birth registration on LancsBMD with MMN Dyson

William Clarkson married Maria Dyson in 1852., when she was 26.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Dec 2023 03:05

He is son on the 1881 census
However in view of Maria’s age doubt that !

Name William Clarkson
Age 5
Estimated Birth Year abt 1876
Relationship to Head Son
Father William Clarkson
Mother Mariah Clarkson
Gender Male
Where born Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Preston
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Street Address 14 Corry St
Occupation Scholar
Registration district Preston
Sub registration district St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel 18
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 4236
Folio 36
Page number 22
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William Clarkson
68
Head
Mariah Clarkson
59
Wife
Henry Clarkson
16
Son
Maria Clarkson
10
Daughter
William Clarkson 5 Son
Thomas Evans
50
Lodger (Boarder) (Lodger)
Thomas Sharples
52
Lodger


Maria birth reg
CLARKSON, MARIA DYSON
GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 327


No william birth reg mmn Dyson !

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Dec 2023 03:25

He is Ellen’s son

Born 12th Oct 1875 at 9 Corry street mother Ellen Clarkson occ cotton Rover

Mother Maria Clarkson of 9 Corry street was the informant on 25th oct signed with an X

So this gro birth reg

CLARKSON, WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 537

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Dec 2023 03:33

Ellen married in 1877

Marriages Mar 1877
CLARKSON Ellen Preston 8e 739
PIMLEY Henry Preston 8e 739

So she left William with her parents


Name Ellen Pimley
Age 24
Estimated Birth Year abt 1857
Relationship to Head Wife
Spouse Harry Pimley
Gender Female
Where born Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Clayton le Moors
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Street Address 5 Back Napoleon St
Marital Status Married
Occupation Cotton Rover
Registration district Blackburn
ED, institution, or vessel 1
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 4176
Folio 8
Page number 9
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Harry Pimley
24
Head
Ellen Pimley 24 Wife
Rachel Pimley
3
Daughter
Richard Pimley
1
Son
James Clarkson
20
Lodger (Head) (Lodger)
Agnes Clarkson
21
Wife
William Hy. Lamon
20
Lodger (Head) (Lodger)
Catherine Lamon
20
Wife

So she was still the same occupation as on William’s birth cert

Birth reg
PIMLEY, RACHEL CLARKSON
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 602

Terence

Terence Report 15 Dec 2023 16:05

thankyou everybody. i wanted to check who was william clarksons mother because i thought Maria was too old to be his mother.Now i know who he belongs to.I am trying to link william to my great grandmother Jane ellen Howarth both born in preston and got married in Lancaster parish church in 1900.his father is also named william clarkson on his weddding cert occupation weaver.So thankyou everybody again for your help.regards terry :-) :-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Dec 2023 16:47

But surely a Willian clarkson born 1875 can’t be the father of someone married in 1900

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Dec 2023 16:53

Marriage: 4 Aug 1900 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire
William Clarkson - 23, Labourer, Bachelor, 43, Green St.
Jane Ellen Howarth - 20, Spinster, 43, Green St.
Groom's Father: William Clarkson, Weaver
Bride's Father: John Howarth, Labourer
Witnesses: William Howarth; Ellen Harrison
Married by Banns by John W. Locker, Assistant Curate
Register: Marriages 1899 - 1900, Page 27, Entry 53
Source: LDS Film 1526202

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Dec 2023 17:20

Name William Clarkson
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 22 Apr 1877
Residence Date 1939
Address 18.
Residence Place Lancaster, L
Occupation Painter - Paint Mills
Line Number 40
Schedule Number 202
Sub Schedule Number 1
Enumeration District Nvmr
Borough Lancaster
Registration district 479-1
Inferred Spouse
Jenny Clarkson
Household Members (Name) Gender
William Clarkson Male
Jenny Clarkson
Female

So two births that could cover

CLARKSON, WILLIAM HAYES
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 603
CLARKSON, WILLIAM KAY
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in LANCASTER Volume 08E Page 764

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Dec 2023 17:40

That doesn’t appear to be the couple who married in Lancaster, as the wife was born in Wolverhampton (1921 census)

The man in 1939 above married Jenny Foster in 1900

Two daughters on 1921 census have second forename Foster

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Dec 2023 17:52

Name William Clarkson
Age in 1911 35
Estimated Birth Year abt 1876
Relation to Head Head
Gender Male
Birth Place Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Chorley
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Street Address 30 Eldon St Chorley
Marital Status Married
Occupation Boiler Fireman (wagon Works)
Registration District Number 475
Sub-registration district Chorley
ED, institution, or vessel 05
Piece 25204
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William Clarkson 35 Head
Jane Ellen Clarkson
29
Wife
Albert Clarkson
1
Son
Albert Clarkson
0
Son
Ann Ellen Clarkson
6
Daughter
William Clarkson
4
Son
Clare Clarkson
9/12
Daughter
Elizabeth Clarkson
10/12
Daughter
James Thos Morris
19
Lodger
Clara Morris
20
Lodger
Clara Morris
6/12


CLARKSON, WILLIAM HOWARTH
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in LANCASTER Volume 08E Page 671

CLARKSON, ANN ELLEN HOWARTH
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in LANCASTER Volume 08E Page 711

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Dec 2023 17:57

1921 census

Census Of England & Wales
7, Townley Street, Chorley, Lancashire, England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
William Clarkson Head Male 1874 46 Preston, Lancashire, England Steam Boile Fireman Mr T Jenkins Co Ltd Cotton Manftrs Chorley
Jane E Clarkson Wife Female 1882 39 Preston, Lancashire, England Home Duties -
Ann E Clarkson Daughter Female 1905 16 Lancaster, Lancashire, England Card Room Creeler Operative W C Widdows Cotton Manftes Chorley
William Clarkson Son Male 1906 14 Lancaster, Lancashire, England Spinning Room Operative (Creeler) W C Widdows Cotton Manftes Chorley
Elizabeth Clarkson Daughter Female 1910 11 Chorley, Lancashire, England - -
Edith Clarkson Daughter Female 1912 8 Chorley, Lancashire, England - -
Robert Clarkson Son Male 1920 1 Chorley, Lancashire, England - -
Ann Howarth Mother-in-law Female 1857 63 Preston, Lancashire, England Home Duties -

Terence

Terence Report 15 Dec 2023 18:12

thankyou so much everyone.Its the Chorley william clarkson who is my great grandfather.My grandmother was ann ellen clarkson.I am just lost as to how to connect him to the family in preston living at corry st in 1881.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Dec 2023 01:23

To recap:

Your grandmother was Ann Ellen Clarkson, born 1906.

Her mother (your Great grandmother) was Jane Ellen Howarth, who was married in 1900 to a William Clarkson.

So you want to know if that William Clarkson is the same one who was Ellen Clarkson's illegitimate son, born 12 Oct 1875.

According to records, William (Jane's husband) was 46 in June1921, 35 in April 1911, and 23 in August 1900. He was also 23 in 1901 census.

Unfortunately, as there's no consistent year of birth for him, it's probably impossible to prove whether or not he's the man born in 1875.

William Clarkson
in the 1901 England Census
Name William Clarkson
Age 23
Estimated Birth Year abt 1878
Relation to Head Son-in-law
Gender Male
Birth Place Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Lancaster
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Ecclesiastical parish St Mary
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration district Lancaster
Sub-registration district Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel 03
Neighbors
Piece 3988
Folio 53
Page number 21
Household schedule number 93
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Howarth 43 Head
Ann Howarth 43 Wife
Jane E Clarkson 19 Daughter
William Howorth 17 Son
Clara Howorth 10 Daughter
Robert Howorth 8 Son
Elizabeth Howorth 2 Daughter
William Clarkson 23 Son-in-law - labourer at floor linoleum works