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Please could SKS post the full details for the following marriage:

1893 in Newbury, Berkshire Albert Henry Veal + Anne Parr

TIA
Kayak

Berkshire Marriages Index
Residence Newbury
First name(s) Albert Henry
Marital status bachelor
Sex Male
Banns date 10 Dec 1893
Last name Veal
Church St Nicolas
Banns year 1893
Spouse's residence Newbury
Marriage year -
Spouse's marital status spinster
Spouse's first name(s) Anne
Event type Banns & marriages
Spouse's last name Parr
Archive Berkshire Archives
Denomination Anglican
Archive reference D/P89/1A/1
County Berkshire
Year range 1884-1894
Country England
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Newbury
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Document type Parish records
Collections from England, Great Britain
Page 93


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Thanks Maddie,

Unfortunately the Berkshire Marriage Index doesn't give the full details for the marriage.
I am trying to confirm who Albert's father was, I think it might be Henry Veal, a Painter

i dont know if you have these

Albert Henry
Attestation service number 27
Last name Veale
Attestation corps 2nd R H C R R
Birth year 1868
Document type Attestation
Birth parish Newbury
Archive reference WO 97
Birth town Newbury
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Birth county Berkshire
Box 6131
Birth country England
Box record number 57
Service number 27
Archive The National Archives
Regiment -
Country England
Year 1900
Record set British Army Service Records
Attestation date 13 Mar 1900
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Attestation age years 32
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Attestation age months 8
Collections from Great Britain, England

Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd

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Albert
Attestation corps Royal Garrison Artillery
Last name Veale
Discharge corps Royal Garrison Artillery
Birth year 1868
Document type Attestation
Birth parish Newbury
Archive reference WO 97
Birth town Newbury
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Birth county Berkshire
Box 6131
Birth country England
Box record number 58
Service number 1219
Archive The National Archives
Regiment Royal Garrison Artillery
Country England
Year 1901
Record set British Army Service Records
Attestation date 11 Mar 1901
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Attestation age years 33
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Attestation age months 8
Collections from Great Britain, England
Attestation service number 1219

nok brother William police officer london

Albert Veale in 1871
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
St Mary Hill Chubs Yard, Newbury, Berkshire, England
View original record
Household members (7 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Veale Head
- Male 39 1832 - London, Middlesex, England
Jeanette S Veale Wife
- Female 27 1844 - London, Middlesex, England
Amey T Veale Daughter
- Female 7 1864 - Surrey, England
Edwin Veale Son
- Male 6 1865 - Surrey, England
Albert Veale Son
- Male 2 1869 - Berkshire, England
William Veale Son
- Male 1 1870 - Berkshire, England
Caroline Musgrove Sister-in-law
- Female 30 1841

Albert Henry
Country England
Last name Veale
Volume 2C
Birth quarter 3
Page 216
Birth year 1868
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Norton #############
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Newbury
Subcategory Civil Births
County Berkshire

Thanks Maddie, That's him in 1871 with his father, I'm not sure if the 2 military records are the same person, My Albert looks to be the one with nok brother William. If they are the same Albert then it looks like he married at least 3 times.

brother william

William Veale
Gender Male
Marriage Age 23
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1870
Marriage Date 9 Jul 1893
Marriage Place Saint Saviour, Hoxton: Hyde Road, Hackney, England
Father
Henry Veale --- a painter
Spouse
Jane Graham
Register Type Parish Register

Yes I already have him also, thanks Maddie.

I really need to confim that the Albert who maried Annie Parr is the one who's father was Henry, the Painter.

siblings
Laura Norton
Country England
Last name Veale
Volume 2C
Birth quarter 2
Page 245
Birth year 1881
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Norton
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Newbury
Subcategory Civil Births
County Berkshire

Annie Crawford
Country England
Last name Veale
Volume 2C
Birth quarter 4
Page 241
Birth year 1877
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Norton
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Newbury
Subcategory Civil Births
County Berkshire

Frances Ellen
Country England
Last name Veale
Volume 2C
Birth quarter 4
Page 249
Birth year 1878
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Norton
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Newbury
Subcategory Civil Births
County Berkshire

william
Male
Country England
Last name Veale
Volume 2C
Birth quarter 4
Page 231
Birth year 1869
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Norton
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Newbury
Subcategory Civil Births
County Berkshire

Reginald
Country England
Last name Veale
Volume 2C
Birth quarter 2
Page 220
Birth year 1874
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Norton
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Newbury
Subcategory Civil Births
County Berkshire

Walter Crawford
Country England
Last name Veale
Volume 2C
Birth quarter 1
Page 243
Birth year 1872
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Norton
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Newbury
Subcategory Civil Births
County Berkshire


henry maybe
Henry
Church Newtown Rd Cemetery
Last name Veale
Place Newbury
Age 63
County Berkshire
Birth year 1819
Country England
Residence Newbury Union
Record set Berkshire Burial Index
Death year 1882
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Burial year 1882
Subcategory Parish Burials
Burial date 15 May 1882

One of the other possible marriages mentioned by Kayak:

Albert Henry Veale
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name Albert Henry Veale
Registration Year 1907 [1907]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Newbury
Inferred County Berkshire
Volume 2c
Page 657
Records on Page (Name)
Charlotte Parr <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< possibly a sister of Anne/Annie ?
Albert Henry Veale


Albert Henry Veale
in the 1911 England Census
Name Albert Henry Veale
Age in 1911 43
Estimated Birth Year abt 1868
Relation to Head Head
Gender Male
Birth Place Exeter, Devonshire, England
Civil parish Newbury
County/Island Berkshire
Country England
Street Address 2 Derby Cottages, Kings Road, Newbury
Marital Status Married
Years Married 3
Estimated Marriage Year 1908
Occupation Labourer
Registration District Number 114
Sub-registration district Newbury
ED, institution, or vessel 08
Piece 6373
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Albert Henry Veale 43 Head
Charlotte Veale 34 Wife
Jeannette Charlotte Veale 3 Daughter


I don't see the death of an Ann* Veal* in Newbury 1893-1907, but there's this one in Reading:

Deaths Mar 1895 ( 99%)
Veale Annie 21 Reading 2c 301

Charlotte in 1891 with a sister Ann:

Charlotte Parr
in the 1891 England Census
Name Charlotte Parr
Gender Female
Age 14
Relationship Daughter
Birth Year 1877
Father
John Parr
Mother
Harriet Parr
Birth Place Newbury, Berkshire, England
Civil parish Newbury
Ecclesiastical parish St Nicholas
Residence Place Newbury, Newbury, Berkshire, England
Registration district Newbury
Sub registration district Newbury
ED, Institution or Vessel 7
Neighbors
Piece 969
Folio 102
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Parr 56 Head
Harriet Parr 53 Wife
Thomas Parr 22 Son
Ann Parr 16 Daughter
Elizabeth Parr 10 Daughter
Charlotte Parr 14 Daughter
James Harding 56 Lodger
John Adams 50 Lodger
Joseph Head 40 Lodger
Arthur Dry 40 Lodger



Anne is Annie on GRO:

Annie Parr
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name Annie Parr
Registration Year 1893 [1893]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Newbury
Inferred County Berkshire
Volume 2c
Page 543
Records on Page (Name)
Annie Parr
Albert Henry Veale


Albert 's age in 1911 fits with your Albert.

1911 does say he was born in Exeter, Devon - but the only birth record of a child of that name in 1868-69 is your one in Newbury.

In fact, he is the only Albert Veale born in those years in the whole of England - though an Albert Veal (no E) was registered in Bedminster, then in Somerset, now part of Bristol..



In 1911 they are in the same household as John , 76, his daughter Bessie Parr , 32 (Elizabeth in 1891 census?) , and a niece Martha Jane Head, 17 - but not all transcribed together on Ancestry.

The other possible marriage mentioned by Kayak:


Albert Henry Veale
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name Albert Henry Veale
Registration Year 1898 [1898]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Reading
Inferred County Berkshire
Volume 2c
Page 926
Records on Page (Name)
Beatrice Ellen Bosher
Albert Henry Veale


Beatrice's death:

Deaths Sep 1900 (>99%)
Veale Beatrice Ellen 23 Reading 2c 227


Maddie posted the attestation record for that Albert

The Berkshire Index Record is for the BANNS……not the actual marriage - hence no fathers named.

You will need to purchase the cert, or visit the Records Office for confirmation

Many thanks everyone for you help, much appreciated :-)

There is a marriage announcement in the paper.

Dec 25 Sergt Albert Henry Veale of 2nd Royal Berks Regt Portland, Dorset to Annie (Nancy) Parr, 4th daughter of John and Harriet Parr of Newbury.

Newbury Weekly News and General Advertiser 28 Dec 1893

So this is Ann Parr.

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
The Steamer, 16, Cheap Street, Newbury, Berkshire, England
View original record
Household members (17 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Parr Head
Married Male 56 1835 Inn keeper Greenham, Berkshire, England
Harriet Parr Wife
Married Female 53 1838 - Greenham, Berkshire, England
Thomas Parr Son
Single Male 22 1869 Bricklayer London, Middlesex, England
>>>Ann Parr Daughter
- Female 16 1875 - Newbury, Berkshire, England
Elizabeth Parr Daughter
- Female 14 1877 - Newbury, Berkshire, England
Charlotte Parr Daughter
- Female 14 1877 - Newbury, Berkshire, England
James Harding Lodger
Widower Male 56 1835 Gardener Newtown, Huntingdonshire, England
John Adams Lodger
Single Male 50 1841 General labourer Maidstone, Kent, England
Joseph Head Lodger
Single Male 40 1851 General labourer Greenham, Berkshire, England
Arthur Dry Lodger
Single Male 40 1851 General labourer Faccombe, Huntingdonshire, England
William King Lodger
Single Male 37 1854 General labourer Newbury, Berkshire, England
Henry Goddard Lodger
Single Male 30 1861 Carman Wiltshire, England
Job Taylor Lodger
Single Male 38 1853 General laborer Newbury, Berkshire, England
James Downes Lodger
Single Male 40 1851 General laborer Newbury, Berkshire, England
Joseph Abrams Lodger
Single Male 58 1833 General laborer Newbury, Berkshire, England
John Appleton Lodger
Single Male 41 1850 General laborer Newbury, Berkshire, England
Israel Harris Lodger
Single Male 59 1832 Carpenter Newbury, Berkshire, England

So this appears to be Albert.

First name(s) Albert Henry
Attestation service number 27
Last name Veale
Attestation corps 2nd R H C R R
Birth year 1868
Document type Attestation
Birth parish Newbury
Archive reference WO 97
Birth town Newbury
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Birth county Berkshire
Box 6131
Birth country England
Box record number 57
Service number 27
Archive The National Archives
Regiment -
Country England
Year 1900
Record set British Army Service Records
Attestation date 13 Mar 1900
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Attestation age years 32
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Attestation age months 8
Collections from Great Britain, England


He had served in the Royal Berks Regt previously but his wife was Beatrice. He was enlisting for the Royal Reserve Regt.


32 yrs 8 months old, 5'7 1/4", 140 lbs, fresh complexion, grey eyes, brown hair, CoE, tattoos both forearms.

First name(s) Albert
Attestation corps Royal Garrison Artillery
Last name Veale
Discharge corps Royal Garrison Artillery
Birth year 1868
Document type Attestation
Birth parish Newbury
Archive reference WO 97
Birth town Newbury
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Birth county Berkshire
Box 6131
Birth country England
Box record number 58
Service number 1219
Archive The National Archives
Regiment Royal Garrison Artillery
Country England
Year 1901
Record set British Army Service Records
Attestation date 11 Mar 1901
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Attestation age years 33
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Attestation age months 8
Collections from Great Britain, England
Attestation service number 1219

This one's NOK is brother, William of the Metropolitan Police, London.
No marriage is mentioned but he was passed for promotion to Sergeant 28/10/93.

33 yrs 8 months old, a labourer, 5'7 1/4", 140 lbs, fresh complexion, grey eyes, brown hair, CoE, tattoos both forearms.

First name(s) Albert Henry
Attestation corps Princess Charlotte Of Wales'S (Royal Berkshire Regiment)
Last name Veale
Discharge corps Princess Charlotte Of Wales'S (Royal Berkshire Regiment)
Birth year 1867
Document type Attestation
Birth parish Newbury
Archive reference WO 97
Birth town Newbury
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Birth county Berkshire
Box 6131
Birth country England
Box record number 59
Service number 2019
Archive The National Archives
Regiment Royal Berkshire Regiment
Country England
Year 1886
Record set British Army Service Records
Attestation date 16 Oct 1886
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Attestation age years 19
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Attestation age months 6
Collections from Great Britain, England
Attestation service number 2019

This mentions being married to Annie Parr on 25/12/93 but she was deceased 20/02/95.

NOK are brothers, Reginald, 16 Cheap St, Newbury and William 2 Bn Royal Berks Regt.

Proceedings of Discharge 59500
Corporal Albert Veale 1219

Discharged 16 Aug 1905
Intended Residence 2 Derby? Cottages, Kings Road, Newbury, Berkshire
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.
All the service records relate to the same person/soldier.

It seems, therefore, that all three marriages are for the same man.