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Graham

Graham Report 22 Mar 2024 14:37

Hello
I am trying to find Robert Chick in the 1881 and 1891 censuses. I have had no success after looking for quite some time and hoped that you may be able to help me please.
Robert was born in Southampton on the 12th May 1865.
His father James Chick died in 1864 before his son's birth. His Mother Grace Chick nee Mitchell died in 1874. Both deaths in Southampton. Grace and children James, Isabella and Robert were in Southampton on the 1871 census. The next document I can find is the marriage for Robert Chick to Eliza Mary Norton formerly Yates on the 9th Feb 1896 in Fulham.
Thank you
Rich

Graham

Graham Report 22 Mar 2024 14:58

Robert Chick

in the 1871 England Census

Name Robert Chick
Age 6
Estimated Birth Year 1865
Relation Son
Gender Male
Where born Southampton Hampshire England
Civil parish All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish St Paul
Town Southampton
County/Island Hampshire
Country England
Registration district Southampton
Sub-registration district Southampton
ED, institution, or vessel 34
Household schedule number 141
Piece 1192
Folio 18
Page number 30
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Grace Chick 44 Wife
James Chick 16 Son
Isabella Chick 12 Daughter
Robert Chick 6 Son

Maddie

Maddie Report 22 Mar 2024 15:21

in 1911 ???
1911 Census For England & Wales
107 Bullow Road, Fulham, London & Middlesex, England
View original record
Household members (10 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Chick Head
Married Male 45 1866 General labourer Hampshire Southampton
Eliza Mary Chick Wife
Married Female 43 1868 Housekeeper London Kensington
Elizabeth Annie Yates Chick Daughter
Single Female 21 1890 Factory hand London Fulham
Isabella Julia Chick Daughter
Single Female 14 1897 Factory hand London Fulham
James Chick Son
Single Male 13 1898 At school London Fulham
Robert George Chick Son
- Male 11 1900 At school London Fulham
Grace Chick Daughter
Single Female 9 1902 At school London Fulham
Jane Chick Daughter
Single Female 7 1904 At school London Fulham
Annie Maud Chick Daughter
Single Female 5 1906 At school London Fulham
Edith Gertrude Chick Daughter
Single Female 3 1908 At school London Fulham

A tree on ancestry has been unable to find the family in those census

Graham

Graham Report 22 Mar 2024 15:45

Hi Maddie
Yes, I noticed that. I guessed it was going to be something like a transcription error but have had no joy yet

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Mar 2024 16:37

??
First name(s) Robert
Document type Discharge
Last name Chick
Archive reference WO 97
Birth year 1866
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Service number 2354
Box 2492
Private
Box record number 85
Regiment -
Archive The National Archives
Year 1892
Country Great Britain
Discharge date 12 Aug 1892
Record set British Army Service Records
Discharge age years 26
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Discharge age months 1
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Discharge corps 2nd Bn West Riding Regiment
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Discharge service number 2354

Discharged in Liverpool

Intended place of residence after discharge.....58 Fulham Road, London

Unfortunately, he was 'sentenced to be discharged with ignominy'

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Mar 2024 16:41

I'm glad you posted that, ErikaH.

I've been squinting at the small blurred image on Ancestry, only viewable properly on Fold3, trying to make it out.
I could see mention of Fulham, so thought it might be relevant.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Mar 2024 16:42

:-D :-D

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Mar 2024 16:44

??? Also only viewable on Fold3 -

Robert Chick
in the UK, Naval and Military Courts Martial Registers, 1806-1930
Name Robert Chick
Court or Trial Date 2 Feb 1892
Court or Trial Place Halifax N. S.
Regiment W. Riding

Jink20

Jink20 Report 22 Mar 2024 17:10

His NOK is sister listed as Mrs Fairchild at Fulham Road

Service record is available on FMP

Graham

Graham Report 22 Mar 2024 17:22

Well done and thank you very much :-D

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Mar 2024 17:35

Don't see a Chick / Fairchild marriage.

His sister Isabella married John Benjamin Butler in 1884 , but died in 1885, so the NOK sister isn't her.

Another sister, Agnes, was born in 1861, but died in 1864.


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Mar 2024 17:43

The trial was for desertion, and resulted in imprisonment. He joined up in 1887

Address for Mrs Fairchild was 569 Clapham Road

Jink20

Jink20 Report 22 Mar 2024 18:27

A tree on FMP suggests the following:

SIBLINGS

Robert James Chick
Gender
Male
Birth
21 November 1853
Weymouth, Dorset, England

James Chick
Gender
Male
Birth
abt 1854
Weymouth, Dorset, England

Name
Albert Chick
Gender
Male
Birth
19 Nov 1855
Franchise Street, Weymouth, Dorset, England
Living status
Deceased
31 May 1926
Royal Hospital, Chelsea, London, England

Name ****same person as per ArgyllGran entry 22 Mar 2024 17:35 ??******
Isabella Chick
Gender
Female
Birth
Mar 1858
Weymouth, Dorset, England
Living status
Deceased
26 January 1885

Name
Robert Chick
Gender
Male
Birth
12 May 1865
Southampton St Mary, Hampshire, England
Living status
Deceased
1942
Fulham Middlesex

PARENTS

Grace Nosseter Mitchell
1826 - 1874

James Chick
1817 - 1864




ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Mar 2024 18:37

I think Mrs Fairchild is Robert's half-sister.

ErikaH posted the address 569 Clapham Road for Mrs Fairchild.

In 1891 there's a Samuel Fairchild and family at 569 Wandsworth Road, Clapham.
Wife Catherine born in Weymouth, Dorset.

Samuel Fairchild
in the 1891 England Census
Name Samuel Fairchild
Gender Male
Age 41
Relationship Head
Birth Year 1850
Spouse
Catherine Fairchild
Child
George Fairchild
Birth Place Southampton
Civil parish Clapham
Ecclesiastical parish St Pauls
Residence Place Clapham, Clapham, London, England
Registration district Wandsworth
Sub registration district Clapham
ED, Institution or Vessel 9
Neighbors
Piece 441
Folio 6
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Samuel Fairchild 41 Head
Catherine Fairchild 41 Wife
George Fairchild 17 Son


FAIRCHILD, GEORGE COOPER mmn COOPER
GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 25


Robert's mother Grace was previously married to a Cooper.

James Click
in the Dorset, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
Name James Click [Chick]
Gender Male
Marriage Age 33
Birth Year abt 1820
Marriage Date 23 Feb 1853
Marriage Place Wyke Regis, Dorset, England
Father John Click
Spouse Grace Cooper

In the 1861 census there's a Caroline Cooper , aged 11, with James and Grace, described as "daughter-in-law" which would mean step-daughter of James.

COOPER, CAROLINE JANE mmn MITCHELL
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in WEYMOUTH Volume 08 Page 139


I think Catherine Fairchild (nee Coooper) may be Caroline Jane, even though her age doesn't match the birth record.

Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
COOPER Catherine Jane Cardiff 11a 449
FAIRCHILD Samuel Caleb G Cardiff 11a 449


Catherine Fairchild
in the 1871 Wales Census
Name Catherine Fairchild
Age 22
Estimated Birth Year abt 1849
Relation Wife
Spouse's Name Samuel Fairchild
Gender Female
Where born Weymouth, Dorset, England
Civil parish St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish St Mary
Town Cardiff
County/Island Glamorgan
Country Wales
Registration district Cardiff
Sub-registration district Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel 18b
Household schedule number 233
Piece 5363
Folio 53
Page number 21
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Samuel Fairchild 24 Head
Catherine Fairchild 22 Wife


Catherine Jane Fairchild
in the UK and Ireland, Find a GraveĀ® Index, 1300s-Current
Name Catherine Jane Fairchild
Maiden Name Cooper
Birth Date 21 Nov 1848
Death Date 22 Apr 1929
Cemetery Fulham Palace Road Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Fulham, London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham, Greater London, England
Has Bio? N
Spouse
Samuel Caleb George Fairchild
Children
Laura Isabel Fairchild 1877-1879
Eliza Grace Fairchild 1871 - 1883


FAIRCHILD, ELIZA GREEN mmn COOPER
GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in CARDIGAN Volume 11B Page 6

FAIRCHILD, LAURA ISABEL mmn COOPER
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 252

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Mar 2024 18:38

Easy enough to verify names of siblings by using the GRO site

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Mar 2024 18:56

In 1881 Eliza Grace/Green is with her Fairchild grandparents in Southampton:

Grace Fairchild
in the 1881 England Census
Name Grace Fairchild
Age 9
Estimated Birth Year abt 1872
Relationship to Head Granddaughter
Gender Female
Where born Cardiganshire, Wales
Civil parish Southampton St Mary
County/Island Hampshire
Country England
Street Address 36 Albert Street
Registration district Southampton
Sub registration district Southampton
ED, institution, or vessel 22
Neighbors
Piece 1209
Folio 21
Page number 35
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
George Fairchild 57 Head
Eliza Fairchild 58 Wife
Alfred Fairchild 18 Son
Grace Fairchild 9 Granddaughter
Lillie Russel 7 Boarder
Henry Swanson 52 Boarder
James Chick 25 Boarder - born London
John Hobbs 56 Lodger
John Hoppar 59 Lodger
Albion Andrews 45 Lodger


There's also a James Chick in that household - maybe some relative ???

Although the census gives his birthplace as London, Ancestry suggests he's James Charles Chick, born on the Isle of Wight. Parents Charles Chick and Margaret Joliffe.

CHICK, JAMES CHARLES mmn JOLLIFFE
GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT Volume 02B Page 426

Jink20

Jink20 Report 23 Mar 2024 12:35

Sent OP a PM with information on how to access Court Martial records from TNA

Reference: WO 90/4
Description: Judge Advocate General's Office: general courts martial registers, abroad
Date: 1866-1900

Graham

Graham Report 24 Mar 2024 10:58

This has all been so very helpful. I am so appreciative of everyone :-D

Graham

Graham Report 24 Mar 2024 16:33

Hi Again

There is really just one thing that I would like to know and that is what happened to Robert Chick's son also named Robert. He was born on the 7th March 1898 in Fulham. He married Florence Agnes Alderson on the 25th December 1921 in Fulham. On the 1939 Register Florence A Chick appears as married with two of their children Denis A Chick and James Chick but no husband James. The last birth of a child I can find for them was Benjamin J Chick born in 1938 I have spoken with my relative born in 1957 who was the grandson of James who says that he presumed he had died before his birth as he has no recollection of him. Frustratingly there is noone remaining in the family that knows and I am unable to see a death record. Can anyone see if they can help with a death for James?
Many Thanks

Graham

Graham Report 24 Mar 2024 16:34

Wasn't sure if I should keep this on the same post or not?