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Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%)

Stringer John W M Stringer Bolton 8c 749
Stringer Lena B Stringer Bolton 8c 749

1939 Register
16 Coronation Street, Wigan, Wigan C.B., Lancashire, England
John W N Stringer 19 Feb 1887 Male Motor Bus Conductor Married 214 1
Lena B Stringer 13 Aug 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 214 2
John R Stringer 10 Dec 1922 Male drapers Shop Assist Single 214 3
Sarah R Stringer 18 Feb 1860 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 214 4

Thanks ErikaH I am up to date with that so far. Where else could 'our' Henry be? Unless, of course, they separated as you said and Elizabeth considered him dead! :-S

Name Elizabeth Knowles
Death Date 12 Mar 1949
Death Place Lancashire, England
Probate Date 6 Apr 1949
Probate Registry London, England
OF 296 Church Road, Westhoughton, died at 702, Leigh Road, Atherton
Probate to Mona Knowles, spinster


Name Henry Knowles
Death Date 2 Aug 1940
Death Place Lancashire, England (296 Church Road, Westhoughton)
Probate Date 3 Apr 1941
Probate Registry Liverpool, England
Probate to John William Nathan Stringer, Bus Conductor and Lena Bolton Stringer wife of said Nathan Stringer


1939 Register
296 Church Street, Wingates, Westhoughton U.D., Lancashire, England
Henry Knowles 14 Jan 1856 Male Colliery Fitter (Retired) Married 30 1
Elizabeth Knowles 28 Mar 1879 Female ??? Married 30 2
Mona Salter (Knowles) 04 Mar ? Female Sewing Machinist Single 30 3
Walter Gregory 12 Sep 1878 Male Colliery Locomotive Driver (Incapacitated) (Retir) Widowed 30 4

Burial: 9 Nov 1907 Blackrod Cemetery, Blackrod, Lancashire
Harry Knowles -
Died At: Chorley Road, Blackrod
Age: 18yrs
Occupation: Coachman
Grave Number: Division C 371 Ch. of England
Buried By: Geo. W. Coleman
Register: Burials 1887 - 1968, Page 21, Entry 416
Source: LDS Family Search

1911 Census For England & Wales
629 Chorley Road Westhoughton, Westhoughton, Lancashire, England

Henry Knowles Head Married Male 55 1856 Engine fitter Blackrod Lancashire
Elizabeth Knowles Wife Married Female 32 1879 House wife Blackrod Lancashire
Leonard Knowles Son Single Male 18 1893 Labourer pit surface Aspull Lancashire
Albert Edward Knowles Son Single Male 17 1894 Coton bleacher Aspull Lancashire
Mona Knowles Daughter - Female 6 1905 - Blackrod Lancashire

Two children born in second marriage.....one has died.

KNOWLES, BEATRICE BAILEY
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 20

KNOWLES, BEATRICE 1
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 7

The inscription details on the grave at Westhoughton are:

Irene Green 1971 aged 52
Elizabeth Knowles Mother of Above died 1972 aged 86
Harry Green husband of Irene
Harry Green son

In 1939, Irene Knowles' married name is shown as Green.

This is not the same headstone as mentioned by Jink20.

Back again. Thank you all for the information, and thank you for the credits ErikaH. That was very kind of you. Now I need to digest and sort. Cx

Henry snr re-married - a woman 23 years his junior

Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
Bailey Elizabeth Wigan 8c 198
Knowles Henry Wigan 8c 198

KNOWLES, MONA BAILEY
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 22

2 sons of the first marriage were with them in 1911

Name Albert Edward Knowles
Rank Pte
Birth Place Blackrod Lancashire
Death Date 7 Jul 1916
Death Place France and Flanders
Cause of Death Died of Wounds
Service Number S/12811
War WW1
Military Unit Gordon Highlanders, 8/10th Bn
Regiment The Gordon Highlanders

So...the Elizabeth who died in 1949 was the second wife

KNOWLES, HENRY SETTLE
GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 280
KNOWLES, LEONARD SETTLE
GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 321
KNOWLES, ROBERT SETTLE
GRO Reference: 1890 S Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 280

Name Henry Knowles
Birth Date 11 Apr 1889
Baptism Date 5 Oct 1890
Parish Blackrod, Lancashire, England
Father Henry Knowles
Mother Mary Knowles
Register Type Parish Registers
Reference Number Pr 2967/1/9

Henry who married in 1912 was born 11 April 1889………..had he been born in 1899, he would have been 12/13 in 1912 .

Harry who died in 1907 seems very likely to be Henry 1899 [ I MEAN 1889 - TYPO ] , the subject of this thread.


KNOWLES, HARRY 18
GRO Reference: 1907 D Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 9


Harry Knowles
in the Web: UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014
Name Harry Knowles
Register Type Burial
Death Date abt 1907
Burial or Cremation Date 9 Nov 1907
Burial or Cremation Place Lancashire, England


EDIT -
NO - OF COURSE NOT! Cynthia's Henry married in 1912.

Henry who died in 1940 was probably 84 years old

Harry, 1907, was 18
Elizabeth, 1949, was 69

I used some credits on Deceasedonline

Knowles, Elizabeth16 March 1949 Unrecorded
Knowles, Henry07 August 1940 Unrecorded
Settle, John Alan Knowles04 June 1921 Unrecorded
Knowles, Harry09 November 1907 Unrecorded
Knowles, Mary27 September 1896 Unrecorded


Deaths Jun 1921 (>99%)
Settle John A K 7 Wigan 8c 15

Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
SETTLE John A K Lane Wigan 8c 36

Do you have the complete inscription from Mary's gravestone? It's not a great image on FindaGrave, but there appears to be several Henry's mentioned. Of interest is the bottom two which reference a Henry and an Elizabeth

https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2009/190/13048383_124725909922.jpg

I would have to order the m/c for Henry's occupation, as it is not on LOPC. Also, as I cannot find him on the 1911, I have no idea as to his occupation as yet. His father was a blacksmith.

Henry has evaporated!
Cx

Thank you for looking. Cx

Worldwide Army Census, 1911

6 results for H Knowles

No exact matches for 1889 YOB

Henry's dob 11.04.1889

Son born at the end of December 1921

No, I haven't seen the b/c so it maybe worth me downloading it?

Thank you.

What was Henry’s occupation when he married?

Do you have Kenneth's birth cert?
Does it say that Henry was his father?

???

Henry Knowles
in the Lancashire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911
Name Henry Knowles
Birth Date 11 Apr 1889 <<<<<<<
Baptism Date 5 Oct 1890
Parish Blackrod, Lancashire, England
Father Henry Knowles
Mother Mary Knowles
Register Type Parish Registers
Reference Number Pr 2967/1/9


1891 census says he was born in Leigh.
1901 says born in Aspull