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Hi

I've been trying to find a birth for Alfred Sidney Stratton born 1904/1906, I can not not find him on 1911 census but he's on Familysearch.org and it says he's on 1911 cenus living in a Scattered Home in Hanwell Middx and was born in Acton, but I can not find on Ancestry census (unless I'm doing something wrong)

This is the reference

GBC/1911/RG14/06857/0421/10

I really want his birth cert but that is evading me also.

Any help would be gratefully appreciated
Kim

Even if born in a poor house he would have a birth cert wouldn't he?
Kim

Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales

2 Montague Avenue Hanwell W, Hanwell, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Alfred Sidney
Last name Stratton
Relationship -
Sex Male
Age 6
Birth year 1905
Birth place Middlesex Acton
Occupation At School
House name -
House number 2
Street Montague Avenue
Address 2 Montague Avenue Hanwell W
Parish Hanwell
County Middlesex
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Brentford
Registration district number 128
Enumeration district 4
District number 4
Sub district Hanwell
Sub district number 3
Census reference RG14PN6857 RG78PN342 RD128 SD3 ED4 SN209
RG78 code number 342
Piece number 6857
Folio -
Page -
Other household member first name(s) Charles, David, Ernest, George, John, Miriam
Other household member last name Holloway, Lod, Hope, Read, Downe, Saunders, Asplin, Shronder, Wood
Record set 1911 Census For England & Wales
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain, England

Record Transcription:
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
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Order Certificate
Is this the same person?
We've found the following potential record matches for the same person in other record sets
Alfred S Stratton
1939 Register
Surrey, England
Year of census: 1939
Alfred S Stratton

First name(s) ALFRED SIDNEY
Last name STRATTON
Gender Male
Birth day 16
Birth month 7
Birth year 1905
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1979
District Surrey Northern
County Surrey
Volume 17
Page 0442
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

1939 Register logo
The National Archives logo
Sidney W O'Neill's life in 1939
2 Century Road, Egham, Egham U.D., Surrey, England

Searle household
(12 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
John J Searle 15 Feb 1905 Male General Labourer Married 2 1
Florence E Searle 15 Sep 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 2 2

Sidney W O'Neill 26 Sep 1914 Female General Labourer Single 2 5
Alfred S Stratton 16 Jul 1905 Male Light Lorry Driver Married 2 6
Dorothy V Stratton 19 Mar 1907 Female Household Duties Unpai Married 2 7
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Beryl Grace Doye (Stratton) 01 Jan 1930 Female At School Single 2 9
Albert Upton 04 May 1928 Male At School Single 2 10

Charles (W N) Ricketts 01 Jul 1932 Male At School Single 2 12

Have you got his marriage cert?

Marriages Mar 1928 (>99%)
Cockman Dorothy V Stratton Brentford 3a 117
STRATTON Alfred S Cockman Brentford 3a 117

Image on Ancestry

He SAYS his deceased father's name was Harry Stratton - Laundryman

One of the witnesses was John Stratton.........have you followed up on that?

Hi Safc

Thanks so much for the info, did you get the 1911 on Ancestry?

Yes all other info I have but still no birth tho :(

Thanks again
Kim

Oh Erika,

Thanks so much for that
Kim :)

In 1939 and at death, his DoB is given as 16th July 1905. If that was correct, his age in 1911 would equate to an estimated birth year of 1906 - not 1905 as per 1911 census

hi kim

from find my past

Erika

I am giving 1 year either side of 1905 due to that but still can't find a birth

But also Harry (or Harold) Stratton is such a common name

Kim

Thank you Safc

I think I still have some credits outstanding on there

Kim

??? Brentford RD includes Acton.

DIGBY, ALFRED SIDNEY mms STRATTON
GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 216

Can't see any likely marriage of parents.


A sister ??

DIGBY, ROSE ELIZABETH mms STRATTON
GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 190


Rose Elizabeth Digby
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Rose Elizabeth Digby
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 2 May 1902 [ DOB 4 Aug 1901 ]
Baptism Place: South Acton, Ealing, England
Father: Thomas Digby [ carman ]
Mother: Mary Digby
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address: 13 Somerset Road


Harry Purkiss and family were at 13 Somerset Road in 1911.
Also (different household) Isaac Ireland and family.
Third household: Frances Anthony, widow.

13 Somerset Road in 1901:

Harry Digby
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Harry Digby
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Blanche Digby
Birth Place: Acton, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Acton
Ecclesiastical parish: South Acton All Saints
Town: Acton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
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Registration District: Brentford
Sub-registration District: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors:
Piece: 1203
Folio: 48
Page Number: 18
Household Schedule Number: 114
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Digby 30 - builder's labourer
Blanche Digby 28
Lizzie Digby 6
Florry Digby 4
Rose Digby 2
Frederick Ling 63 - boarder


DIGBY, ROSE LOUISA mms LING
GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 156

DIGBY, FLORENCE MATILDA mms LING
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 148


Henry Digby
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Henry Digby
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1870
Marriage Date: 6 Jan 1894
Marriage Place: St Mary, Acton, Ealing, England
Father: Thomas Digby
Spouse: Blanche Edith Ling
Register Type: Parish Register


Harry Digby
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Harry Digby
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1870
Mother: Elizabeth Digby
Birth Place: Acton, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Acton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Residence Place: Acton, Acton, Middlesex, England
Registration District: Brentford
Sub registration district: Acton
ED, Institution or Vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 1036
Folio: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Digby 62
Thos Digby 34 <<<<<<<<< ?????
James Digby 24
Harry Digby 21
Alfred Digby 18


In 1901 Elizabeth, the mother, is at 2 Somerset Road with married daughter Eliza Watts and family.

Eliza's marriage:
DIGBY Eliza Louisa Brentford 3a 64
Watts Arthur Brentford 3a 64


Can't see the brother Thomas after 1891, apart from on Rose Elizabeth's baptism record.

ArgyllGran

Re Alfred Sidney Digby, how do you know mothers maiden name was Stratton?

Kim

from the gro


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
DIGBY, ALFRED SIDNEY STRATTON
GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 216

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp#LoginForm

Thank you safc, I've sent for the cert

Can't thank you guy's enough, as the Digby's have Harry Stratton living with them on 1911.

Kim

He's a coal porter in 1911, not a laundryman, but maybe changed occupation.

Harry Stratton
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Harry Stratton
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Acton, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Acton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 11A Petersfield Road, Acton
Occupation: Coal Porter
Registration District: Brentford
Registration District Number: 128
Sub-registration District: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 6965
Household Members:
Name Age
James Digby 44
Elizabeth Digby 42
Elizabeth Digby 17
Alice Digby 12
James Digby 6
Joseph Digby 4
Harry Stratton 24


His mother was a laundress in 1901:

Harry Shatton
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Harry Shatton
[Harry Stratton]
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Mother: Mary Shatton
Birth Place: Chiswick, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Acton
Ecclesiastical parish: South Acton All Saints
Town: Acton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration District: Brentford
Sub-registration District: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors:
Piece: 1203
Folio: 54
Page Number: 29
Household Schedule Number: 165
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Shatton 38
Harry Shatton 14
John Shatton 8
Daisy Shatton 6
Florence Shatton 5
Annie Holding 23
William Holding 4/12


Neither of Harry's sisters in 1901 census is old enough to have been Alfred S's mother. At least one hopes so. They'd have been 8 and 10.


Daisy May Stratton
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Daisy May Stratton
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 23 Dec 1894
Baptism Place: South Acton, Ealing, England
Father: Charles Stratton
Mother: Mary Stratton
Register Type: Parish Registers


STRATTON, DAISY MAY mms LEWIS
GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 134


Florence Maud Stratton
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Florence Maud Stratton
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 7 Jun 1897
Baptism Place: Acton St Mary, Ealing, England
Father: Charles Stratton
Mother: Mary Stratton
Register Type: Parish Registers

STRATTON, FLORENCE MAUD mms LEWIS
GRO Reference: 1896 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 153


??
Florence Stratton
in the England & Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers, 1800-2016
Name: Florence Stratton
Age: 10
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1896
Death Date: abt 1906
Burial Date: 24 May 1906
Burial Place: Ealing, Greater London, England
Cemetery: Acton Cemetery
Grave Number: M98/g
Interment Number: 4916

Mary Lewis
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Mary Lewis
[User-submitted-comment]
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1865
Marriage Date: 14 Sep 1891
Marriage Place: South Acton, Ealing, England
Father: John Lewis
Spouse: Charles Shatton [ age 27, father Charles Henry ]
Register Type: Parish Register


Harry was born before the marriage:

??

LEWIS, HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1888 J Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 109

???
LEWIS, SARAH JANE -
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 60


Deaths Jun 1885 (>99%)
Lewis Sarah Jane 0 Brentford 3a 64



EDIT:
No, not so sure about these!


???
LEWIS, SUSAN EMILY -
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 51


Can't see a sister Mary Stratton or Lewis.