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Exactly Hayley, and why not on the gross waste of money on the Olympics or the various white elephants like the Millenium Dome, or the wages of the top earners or the money that floats around football...

Well Uggers, our racist party held 15 seats in the Assembly in 2007!
They are now considered main stream and people choose to forget their past incitement to civil disorder.

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BBC - Crimewatch - Most wanted, mmmmm could this shed light on the subject

Doesn’t football generate its own income? As the club pays medical bill for injured players and even the policing of the grounds on match days.

Rb I am not with you with the crimewatch thing can you explain please.

I've been buying gerbils with my son for his birthday... one white ( with a bit of beige) one black (with a bit of white) ... he wanted "multicultural " lol that 's my boy .

Agree with everything Uggers has said ,

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remember this one?

Take a pinch of white man
Wrap it up in black skin
Add a touch of blue blood
And a little bitty-bit of red indian boy

Mm, curly latin kinkies
Mixed with yellow Chinkees
If you lump it all together
Well, you've got a recipe for a get-along scene
Oh, what a beautiful dream
If it could only come true
You know, you know

I hope we dont send all the immigrants home
If we do we need to train some Drs

Ok who will they send home first ?

What will happen if any of your family where immigrants , Where Will they send them home ( as they call it ) to ?

Monty I asked you if you could please say what you meant by the
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BBC - Crimewatch - Most wanted, mmmmm could this shed light on the subject

now you have just posted the lyrics to Melting pot, this doesnt answer my question?

Hmmm....not entirely sure I should admit to this but one of the things that has been going through my mind since the "Question Time thread" is why do people say "I'm not racist but....." then, 9 times out of 10, proceed to say something that comes across as racist???

Sorry Hayley, the football thing was a sideways comment, just about how much money there is in the country. And I do think if the obscene amounts footballers are bought for and get paid were taxed the economy wouldn't have get a boost - I think very high earners should be taxed shed loads more.

Yeah, funny that isn't it, Cat:)

Totally agree, Keith - our health system would be just a tad short:)

I hope this wasn't in reference to anything I said on my thread, because not once did I come out with 'I'm not racist but....'

Yes I did mention immigration, I also pointed out that this was out of concern for the economy. Of course it has an impact on our economy, and we are behind other EU countries in recovering from the recession. Can we afford to take on as many immigrants as we are? Nothing to do with race, but surely we can raise a point about immigration without being accused of racism?

Well TW I can't (and wouldn't presume) to answer for Uggers but I can categorically state that on my account it wasn't anything you said.

I don't remember anyone actually saying the "I'm not racist but....." on your thread it was just that reading it brought back memories of other threads on here and posts on other sites.

Chill out Teresa, I'm talking about real life conversations but you are completely missing the point of what I wrote. As I said, as soon as people start seeing a racist party as reasonable because they say what some of the voters want to hear, we're on a dangerous path

I hope not Cat, because I am the last person you could accuse of racism. I'm thinking other cuts will have to be made, why not this as well? At least until recovery. That's all I was trying to say.

AS TW said you have to separate racism from immigration concerns, the two are not joined at the political hip!

I hate to watch a hate crime relayed on TV and there is absolutely NO excuse for that vile behaviour. However, I can look at the question of 'over immigration 'quite coldly and analyse the overt and covert financial costs to the economy without guilt.

Surely that can be debated without arguing?

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Edit: Just read Uggers reply....lol

*chilled* you have to look to the recent past and acknowledge that the BNP are NOT the first racist party to gain support and I don't suppose they will be the last. They undoubtedly will start changing their agenda to fall into the more acceptable stream and then let's see what support they garner!

Uggers our posts crossed.

That's ok, then, and yes I do agree with that, though I still think they only got in to europe because of protest votes. I think those votes came back to bite the voters and serves em right. But people do believe what they hear, thats why the majority vote mainstream parties, the top three anyway, because we (try) to believe their promises LOL

Well if TW said so, then I really have to, Sue:) Does it then appear that I am thick as the proverbial and am unable to do so? What I have said is just because the BNP have tapped in to peoples fears over immigration it doesn't make them a reasonable option to agree with. They are still a racist hate party and anyone who is taken in by them isn't mentally competent to vote.

TW, I've never known you to say anything racist. I'm not accusing you (or your thread for that matter) of anything. It just happened to trigger a memory of something someone had said on an entirely different site that made me think about previous posts on this and other sites.

What I would really like to know ( and google isn't playing much ,) is the numbers who LEFT the UK in the same periods... for eg

"Two million Britons emigrate in 10 years - Telegraph20 May 2008 ... Two million Britons emigrate in 10 years. Two million British citizens have left the UK in a decade, the greatest exodus from this country ..."

"According to the research by ONS last year ( 2007) UK recorded the highest number of emigrants about 400,000 and immigrants of 591,000."

if anyone can find more recent figures would be interested to see :)

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