General Chat

Good job you put the thread up again then Gail

Ann, I have had an interesting day with study. Joined a couple of web sites that Mick recommended as well, you can remain anonymous if you wish, which I chose to do. Have a lot more work to do though to understand it all.

Gail

Gail Lol!!! An advanced order!

Glad you have got some useful advice on here. Might as well be latin to me for all I understand it but interesting the bits I can understand!

I used to be a blood donor for many years, would not the same ethos hold there as well, as I never really found out what they did with it, only presumed. So the blood bank still holds that information. That should give as much cause of concern as to what they did with it.

If they want to clone me, go ahead, but please this time give me a little nose, and tweak my genome so I am not fat.

Gail

The tiny amount of your DNA that is tested for genealogical purposes wont tell anyone much about you.

I have heard that a full genome scan will soon cost less than $1000- now THAT wouldnt be something you would want published on the net!

not if you don't have any control over who it is being released to, or the use to which the data might be put.

But isnt the whole point to release your results, so that you can find close genetic matches?

Hi Gail

one of the ethical concerns is the protection of your DNA and data


most of these companies do not seem to have good protection, so your information could be released into the world wide community.

One company that was offering DNA analysis in the US has gone bankrupt or closed down ..... and no-one knows what has happened to all the DNA records that they were holding.



sylvia

Thanks Mick. Worked out Y-search but having trouble with Mitosearch.

Hard going alright, should have studied this stuff instead of accounting.

Gail

Oh and Gran, if you manually enter your results on Y-search and Mitosearch it will tell you which sub-groups you belong to.

xxxxxxx mick

Thanks Mick I will look at those sites, it is interesting though.

Sylvia, would love to hear more about the Ethics of all this. It is also interesting.

Gail

Gran - these are some of the best sites I have found-

http://www.buildinghistory.org/distantpast/peoplingeurope.shtml

http://www.dna-forums.com/index.php?/index

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_mtdna_haplogroups_frequency.shtml

http://www.mitosearch.org/add_start.asp?uid=yx6pb

http://www.ybase.org/submit.asp

Yes -it can be heavy going - persevere!


xxxxxxx mick

sparklingAnn


I believe there is, but the main reason is that they are all for-profit companies, with some suspicions as to the accuracy of their work.


sylvia

Interesting Sylvia, Is there some suspicion that they may not be genuine?

I have to pass on this ...........................


OH is a science ethicist, working in the area of ethics in the scientific community (as against medical ethics)


I told him about this thread ...... and he commented that there is some concern in the science community about the ethics of the companies that offer these DNA tests.


Just something to think about



sylvia

lol!!!

I have a degree in Genetics ...... albeit from over 40 years ago



and I just don't understand any of the findings from DNA tests



EXCEPT for the fact that they seem to have tied you to one of several groups, and your group originated in the Mediterranean area 40000 or so years ago

That group would then have moved out in other areas of Europe and Africa.



I think you need to determine where your ancestors came from, going as far back as you can, and then see if you can tie that in with anything in those results.



Obviously at some point, the maternal line of ancestors crossed paths with the paternal line!



Just be glad you haven't been tied to a Neanderthal!

Carole I think all these things we aren't used to that are technical appear heavy. I was hoping somebody more intelligent than I could help us.

Hi Gail, it pretty heavy stuff isn't it. Micks was also heavy reading. I wonder if the results are a bit like a horoscope ( you look for something true in there) and say oh yes that is me. It is vague in parts isn't it. ( There are several known subgroups of R1b. We're not yet able to tell you which (if any) of these subpopulations you match to).
I'd like to have my dads DNA tested, but the results I would be looking for are more recent (the last 100 years) than going back to the ice age. I'd like to know if it's true or just something my Nan made up that his father was American.

Surely somebody has the brain to go through this and explain, if nothing else it is very interesting.