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it makes me so cross the way Dutch,s family treat her she had xmas card from her son and family,and from grandchildren who she hardly ever sees but nothing as yet from the ones she always sees,i know one of her grandsons has posted cards with Theo photo in thats Dutches g,grand son,she has sent all the cards and presents early so they got them on time,did they do the same No,sorry its not like me to put this up but dont like what its doing to my wife
Jan

I do hope the cards arrive on time Jan, I think when 'mum/grandmother' does so much for family and friends as Joyce does it is easy to think of them as the one who always does the organising...

All my best to Joyce and yourself and please tell her I haven't forgotten the marigold seeds and will send them after Christmas!

Rose xx

Hi Jan

please give Joyce a hug from me, i have four children, won't go into detail but i know exactly how she must feel.....all brought up and loved the same but two are close and two are strangers...

it hurts..i know

xxx

Hello Jan. I've not been here long, but have read a lot of Dutch's posts.
She seems such a lovely lady and it's sad that some of her family do not cherish her. I hope one day they will.

Sending my best wishes to you both for Xmas and I wish you good health for the New Year.

Catie x

Thank you Rose and Stella Dutch is general over there just before xmas so they all give her the cards and present,but she could,nt make it so she wont get any ,one of her sons said he was sorry but could,nt afford acard but that was on her birthday,and both him and his wife are working i would,nt dream of missing my mums birthday or xmas ,thaey just have,nt got aclue what there doing to her
wishing you both all the best for xmas from me and Dutchx

Your not on your own love,mine only show up when they need money.

I don't think the youngsters are thoughtless,they are getting on with life,paying bills,bringing up their own kids ect,and probably don't notice time passing,we have all been there.

A big hug to you both,and have a lovely uneventful Christmas and healthy new year.,Love and kisses,Nina from icy Sheffield,xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

i know what you mean the better half,s daughter is the same over the last 21 yrs she has only sent her two chistmas card.s not one birthday or mother,s day cards makes me sick after all the wife has done for her . as some of you may remember when the daughter veryill the wife was in london for three weeks looking after her and children . so a card would have been nice. kid,s who would have em.

My friend gave her son and wife £50 each for Christmas, a present about £100 for their baby, apart from various birthday presents and clothes /shoes for baby over the year.
She was allowed to visit them last week, for just one hour, not given a cup of tea or coffee, they did not give her even a christmas card.
Why are children so nasty to their parents, when parents are so good and kind to them

so sorry to hear this.sound as though ur wife is too kind hearted and they are taking advantage of her........xx...sending lots of xmas luv and blessings to both of you "E"

Its nonsense that they cant afford a card , we have a shop called Card Factory that has many branches and i got boxes of lovely good quality cards for 99p for 10 ,plus all my special card for Hubby . daughter, grandchildren etc cost 89 and 99p each .
Sometimes i think its a excuse cos they cant be bothered .Sorry to say that.
I have "spoken" to Joyce by PM ,was helping her trying to find ancestors which we had some success with , She was so gratefull for all the info i could find for her.She is a very helpful Lady with so much love she gives out to her friends and family that its a shame her family dont give her as much time as she offers out to others with no thought for her own health.
So Merry Christmas Joyce and to you Jan ,stay warm and happy.

Shirley

Know what you mean. My hubby's got 2 daughters, both grown up.

One sends thank you straight away for hers and kids birthday, Christmas etc plus she always sends him cards for birthday, christmas, father's day etc.

The other one, the little madam, says nothing. Even when he phones her at birthday, Christmas etc and says did you get the cheque (knowing full well she's cashed it already) she just says "yeh" but still doesn't say thank you.
He's bailed her out with cash for car trouble, cash flow trouble, credit card trouble etc etc I'm sick of it. In all the years I've known my hubby she's never sent him a birthday card, christmas card, father's day or anything else. Never said thank you. Funny how she's continually on the phone texting all her friends but can't text 2 words to her dad.

Of course, if it were up to me she'd get a good talking to and no more money.....but what can I say? Nothing, just got to watch it happen.

So my heart goes out to Joyce, and hope she can take comfort in knowing that she is a good and kind person. Despite how others are treating her, WE KNOW she is nice!

Christmas greetings to you both.

K xxx

Jan tell Joyce not to get upset, we all have family like that, but we still give them love which is what its all about, I think the only time they will realise, is when we are no longer here.... our friends are the ones who show their love,
both of you have many friends lots on here and others too.so enjoy all the love and best wishes that are sent to you, you are very special people, I include you Jan, because we regard you as a friend, now give the lady a big hug, and enjoy your Christmas and New Year....

much love Jean and Jeff xx

Thank you all i know it will mean alot to my wife as i have come to no just how many good friends she has on here,if she was in England she would get all her cards and presents one g,daughter has just text her to say she will give it her when she comes over in Janu as Dutch is staying there ,its her youngest son who,s the mean one Michael her son who is sick,told his mum dont get us anything keep your monery in your pocket,well i bet you can guess what Dutch said,the day i cant give my family and g,children and g,grandchildren is when im gone ,so there ladys you have it ,but we wish you all the very best for 2010
Jan

Jan please accept a (((HUG))) for both of you, Dutch is one of the kindest people I now of.
I've experienced the same with family, one of my sisters who visited my Mum once in 5 years when Mum had to go into care and some of the grandchildren who cried and wailed the most when Mum was laid to rest last month, I had to try so hard to keep tongue between my lips.

They all lived the same distance as myself so no excuse.

Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS and care for each other.

Frances xx

Jan, it is so nice to hear you be so concerned for Joyce. We were lucky with our son, who was a sentimental fella, but my sister and her children who I have don a lot for over the years couldnt care less, never include me in the family atall unless there is someone ill or needs transport. My OH is like you and gets very bad-tempered over it.

Hello Jan....l have just seen this. l am sorry this is happening, we can see from here that she's not treated properly and Dutch is such a good kind person, if only she can think of herself for a change. She must get better and not worry about them. You sound such a lovely husband, you take care too.

Love from
jude xx
Big ((((((((((((Hug)))))))))))) to Dutch

Poor Joyce, I do feel for her and it must make you angry Jan as your family seem so close and help each other.

My o.h.'s sons are selfish, neither of them have sent a card with Dad on for ages, one son and his girlfriend sent a plain old card out of a box, I think like one he sent a couple of years ago. On the back it is printed, recycle your cards at Tesco in 2007 so shows the card was sold in 2006!
I have told him several times how much a card with Dad on would mean to his father but the son just says Oh I don't do cards really! The other one in N.Y. happily asked for a tv set for him and his new wife and her kids, as theirs has broken down, so o.h., his ex and the brother (Son with old card habit) have sent a load of money over to pay for the tv. Yet again son is pleading poverty and saying he can't afford presents, I can't remember the last time o.h. had a gift for bday, Christmas or Father's Day from that son yet he has travelled back and forth to U.S.A for the last few years for pleasure and finally conned this woman, older than him, to send the money for his fare after Christmas last year, when he had only been back from the States a month, so he could go over for another holiday, they then decided he would stay so to facilitate that he married her in June so he is now waiting to get his Green card so he can work. Meantime she has been keeping him!
O.h.'s father also sends ordinary cards out of boxes for birthday and Christmas yet o.h. always gets them all a card with Father, Son, or Sister on for his family members.
Wonder why there are such selfish people around in some families.

Lizx

So sad for our dear Joyce, i apologise, I haven't sent any cards this year, just too much chaos, here, and now I've had a laceraton of my left hand which has done me in for a couple of days, telling me to slow down I suspect. Please let Joyce know that we cherish her friendship and kindness.
Love and hugs to you both
mary

Thank you Mary Dutch,s son Michael has just phoned he was,nt very happy that his mum did,nt get any cards off the rest of the family,but she told him it was ok ,otherwise he would end up falling out with some of them,but she told him i got my cards of you and all my friends on Gr the better than some of her own family,sorry but thats the way i see it ,and i thank you all
Janx

I feel so sad that this is happening to Joyce if she was my mum i would cherish her like she should be
she is a wonderful caring soul a truly beautiful and special lady and doesnt deserve to be treated this way
i know how it feels i have a son and daughter never get any birthday or xmas cards from them but as soon as they want something their on the phone
Tell Joyce to take care and you too Jan hope you both have a lovely xmas and a very happy new year