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Hi Mildred, I still haven't changed my mind :) sorry if you thought I was referring to you when I said If you don't like...... I meant to say if people.... I genuinely wasn't referring to you specifically. I have a habit of saying you when I mean people in general. That comment was also referring to my previous statement about people adding to threads that wish people well. Obviously if there is a debate thread, it would be pretty pointless if everyone agreed. Taking that statement out of that context, I can see why you may argue that.

I also wasn't commenting on lyndas or gwens threads so don't know what you are referring to. I found lyndas thread very interesting although I still haven't made up my mind. I liked uggers response the best :) haven't spent much time on here the past few days so haven't caught up with all the threads. I probably won't get the chance this weekend either. I just quickly latched onto your thread this morning as it looked like a good debate :)

Well thank you Uggers for your contribution LOLOL

I think you're all dull as ditchwater and whatever causes the most hooha is the favourable option.

lol Mildred 'pass' ;)

if someone hadn't mentioned a web site , I wouldn't have got £22 off my sub to a 'well known' genealogical site ...I lasted just one week after my previous sub had ended , it drove me mad not being able to view :)
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If someone dont take umbrage or it dont turn into personal insults it aint no fun so dont join in,:}}}}}}

I dont insult if no one else is on my wave lenghth.

GR is the worst place to try and have any kind of debate these days.........bring back the good old GR days.:}

These are in the guidelines for message board use - so maybe when people use this site to post info threads like the one what was posted, despite their good intentions they may want to bear this in mind :o))

"Don't use the service for any business or commercial or charitable purpose, or to promote any alternative commercial service."

" Don't include an email address, postal address, phone number, the address of any website"

Well as I said earlier, there was nothing at all on that thread to suggest that it wasn't up for debate, and surely, just because some information is available, it doesn't mean it can't be discussed from all points of view.

As Mildred said, the fact that we were debating on it kept the thread at the top, so did Gwen a favour, but we'll forget that eh?

No, there was some stirring going on, once the debate got going, by the thread originator and her friend. If she didn't want debate, she should have said so. end of.

I do think that if a post is just to inform it is reasonably easy to state that? eg

"Quidco can save you money on Ancestry subs see www.quidco.com."

or "Moneysavingexpert.com has some great info on everything from pizza vouchers to government grants for free computers for kids.....have a look"

but if it is a subject that provokes a debate, well does it matter if people do so?

if I said " I am going over to my 'buy to let' to see how much I can make on it'...and someone posted that they thought "All property is theft" or that all housing should be state owned...I would be happy for people to debate the point lol.
:)

Rose xx

Lesley

Whilst I agree with you 100% about not turning threads that wish people or their family well into a debate (thats common sense)

Regarding the "information" thread of Gwen's, the subject was actually on the news either the day before or that day, i can't remember which, It may have even been on our local radio news, but I was aware of it and my school colleagues and I were having a discussion about it just the other day as it was of interest to us.

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"yes you may want to add something that compliments it or additional info but I don't think it's for debate"
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By that statement it does sound like you are saying only add if you agree with the subject or not at all ?

Only post if you agree with the subject,............ Isn't that a bit bland and short sighted ?

This is a public forum & people should be allowed to hold a differing opinion, if a subject allows this, such as the thread subject in question, which IS of public interest.

As for you using Joys football thread as an example of not mentioning players pay, the threads normally do not mention anything about players pay. So why would you even bring up that subject if it wasn't relevant ?

I, and others on said "info" thread were commenting and giving opinions on what was actually written in the first post. The comments were relevant to the subject of the thread.

It wasn't as if we took the info in the first post away, in fact, it actually kept the thread on the first page for those who did want to use the info.

Also the point you made regarding
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" If you don't like that person you should just avoid it and let their friends comment."

If you read my initial first posts before someone other than the poster initially made sly remarks to me on the thread. I was actually polite, put good points across & even put friendly "smiles" within my posts

If I want to add to threads which interest me I will, I don't care If I like or dislike the poster,if Its the subject I'm interested in I will post.

I would suggest if people who post threads wanting only friends to answer them, and only for people to agree 100% with them need to question themselves if posting on a public forum is right for them,

Why should people have their wrists slapped just because it boils down to someone, or people not wanting you to post opinions, however politely put, on their thread as they don't mirror their own, or just the fact they don't like you ?

Mostly read, sometimes they get too serious, so do not post much. Most threads move too quickly for me to type fast enough to join in anyway.

Used to join in when I first came on GR, too many nasty PM sent about my opinions, so turned me off debating on here.

Gail

I disagree mildred ;) where it is clearly a debate or a question has been asked suggesting a debate I think it's good for people to put their views across albeit if they are different. I would expect people to be polite but I expect most people are on here.

However I think some threads aren't for heated debate. If someone is giving out information to help others I would not expect a heated debate about it, yes you may want to add something that compliments it or additional info but I don't think it's for debate. Ie I wouldn't add to joy's football thread to say that I disagree with all the money that is spent on football.

Also I think threads that wish people or their family well shouldn't be subject to debate. If you don't like that person you should just avoid it and let their friends comment.

Just my opinion, I'm sure others will disagree :)

Different strokes for different folks...

I like a debate thread that gets really personal and turns into a slanging match. Great larf.

I feel the same way as Marcelle. Some of the debates do get very personal and I hesitate in posting. A couple of months ago a guy called Medic put up a thread. Not sure what it's heading was, but it was about bullying on the boards. He was attacked and at the time I felt really sorry for him. Lots of people said he was a WUM. That a real medic wouldn't post. I thought it odd at the time, but about a month ago, the very same person made contact about one of my rellies. Did we have a connection. Turns out we did ( only through marriage). Well I met Medic and his wife - we swapped some pics - and they were entirely genuine.

Catie x

I never mind who disagrees with me in a debate...I always know I'm right...................

No but seriously if it is a subject I have an opinion on or feel I can put a different viewpoint ( sometimes playing 'devil's advocate' ) then I find it hard not to add.

If it is a topic I know nothing of, i will just read and then go and look it up for my own amusement...I like to learn something new :)

Often there are debates where there is no 'black and white' and no one is wrong or right, it is just a different and perhaps very personal perspective. It is good to hear different views, it helps clarify ones own :))

xx PS if I get really narked I go off and slam some doors, especially if I think I might get narked with a friend :))

A good debate is healthy, and everyone should be entitled to express their views, and even perhaps justify them if it's true debate.

There must of course be rules, and the terms and conditions we all hold so dear must be our boundaries,

However, so long as the RR button exists, and people shout "my thread, my rules" then there is no chance.

But,as a member of the bebating society at both school and university I do enjoy a good old argy-bargy.......

I love a good debate. I don't expect everyone to have the same views on everything - be a dull world if we all did. Therefore on a debate thread you will have differing views. Depending on the subject there is often no "right" or "wrong" as it's quite often just a viewpoint. Although some subjects might be difficult to defend maybe.

Loved the school dinner thread - interesting comments on there and I added my two penn'orth!

I don't think Gwen meant the free laptop thread as a debate thread. Although, as it turned into a debate thread maybe she could have just let it run as one? In any event there were some interesting points the last time I read one of them!

But the answer to your initial question is "Not always". I read some threads that I don't add to. I try not to add to threads that might go AWOL as I find it really difficult to sit on my hands! And, sometimes, I don't want to share my opinion. There are a few topics that I'd rather not get too involved in ...

Jill

As I see it it's not friends disagreeing that cause the problems - most of us can accept that we don't all think alike. To my mind the trouble starts when a WUM arrives or someone takes the debate personally. Then the insults start and someone often ends up angry and retaliating.

Sue xx

*pokes tongue out at TW*

*agrees with Hayley who is now my new best friend* pmsl xx

i tend to add what i think, then see others posts n think ohhhh there right, but im rubish at putting things down in words, :( xxx