General Chat

Kim, you hit the nail on the head ;-))) Hi Sal, I think it was one of those training exercises that was very popular for a period of time, but the more well known it got, the less impact it had. Dee x

Hi Dee, I remember seeing an interview with the woman who organised this - can't remember her name now - it was quite sometime ago wasn't it and just seeing the interview had such an impact on me at the time. It must have been an incredible thing to have witnessed personally. Sal x

David , Lee , if it wasn,t for people like yourselves willing to ask questions, we would still be in the dark ages..... x x Kim

David, the points raised are valid, maybe a bit off subject, but I don't have a problem with that. (just find me a fence to sit on) ;-)))

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Forgive me if I,m wrong , but don,t Wales and Scotland make their own rules now on policies.? If our own government in England are not prepared to offer the same facilities as the Scots and the Welsh, isn,t it up to us , the english to make our objections known? Surely the Scotts and the Welsh have obviously done so.

so David i suppose you think that it's ok to allow the English to pay presription charges of £ 6.80 while allowing our Welsh friends to pay nothing,,,,,,,,, in your book this is not discrimination against the English either.

You are right Andrew, it does make quite an impact, much better than just listening to a lecture ;-))

It is good though, must tell my daughter in case she has to organise any equality courses, I guess that is where it would work best. Ann glos

we did that whilst studying R.S at my secondary school. For a whole lesson the blue eyes could sit back, not work and order the brown eyes to do stuff. having blue eyes i thought it was great, but not so great when in the following lesson she reversed it. After that she explained why she had done it. it was a powerful experience andy

Hi Ann I was very new to courses of that sort at the time, but I guess some of the people who had been before were probably aware of what was going on, and may actually have been 'acting up' to the situation, to make a point. Dee x

Dee, what an interesting start to a course. I wish I had come up with that idea for a course. In all my years as Training Liaison officer I never came across it. But what a good way to make a point, and I can see how it affected those not chosen. Having said that, I wonder why more of you were not half suspicious that it was something to do with the course? Or was it one of the first you had been on? speaking as somebody who is hard of hearing, and , not as some people seem to think, stupid, I do appreciate what it is to be discriminated against. good thread! Ann Glos

Certainly some interesting points coming out. Gaynor, the people running the course had selected those for the 'elite' group before hand, just by drawing the names from a hat Several of us had travelled together and some of us got the 'red carpet' others were treated like , well the proverbial Jax, when I did the course I was working within the playgroup orginisation PPA and we had to be very aware that we treated all parents and children fairly. Ultimately our treatment of a parent could affect the child in the future. The book I read was about the Nazi situation , and of course at that period in history blue eyed people were thought to be superior, or so we are led to understand Dee x

so David thats ok is it that English people can die from life threatening diseases, but Scotland can hand out these drugs for free to there population, so why is it that Scottish lives are worth more than English lives. NB I have many Scottish friends and i'm not having a go at the Scottish people,,,, im having a go at our Biased government.

David without being pedantic - I think Lee was just making a point I know what he means and can think of several other reasons which I won't go into here why he would say that. It may not 'technically' be racial but certainly is discriminative.

try telling that one to the person dying from cancer,, that they cant have a drug that is freely available to the people in Scotland but not if your English,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,try telling it to the WW2 pilot that has to move to scotland to get a drug that will save his eyesight.............. your argument is flawed

i was trying to be diplomatic David i will explain,,,,many times in the news recently we have seen cases of English people being denied drugs that could cure their cancer, but are freely available to cancer patients in Scotland,,,,what do you call that if not Racial disrcimination.

Dee...Brown eyes, Blue eyes... were you discriminated by eye colour and if so which way ?

You can call it whatever you want David, but in my book i am being descriminated against because i am English by our present goverment, and that is racial decrimination,,,,,no different than Black on white or blue or brown eyes.

Desrimination,,,,,,mmmmmmmmmmm What i will say is the way in which our government Desriminates against the English, where they deny life saving drugs to cancer patients but are freely available to other parts of the Uk, where we pay £ 6.80 for perscriptions, but are free to others countries in the uk........... where students pay top up fees in England but are free to others in the uk .