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Sorry, Sue, but at the moment, you simply CANNOT say who Eric’s father was, as no-one has found a birth registration for him.

Researching the Gorvett line may prove to be a complete waste of time.

Hilda's name was changed to Feasby 12 years before George Gorvett died, so she obviously didn't stay with him very long

There are three possible marriages for Michael .
Potentially (going by dates and places of births of children) all three could be for the same man - but of course the marriage certs would be needed for confirmation.

(But I think the 1974 marriage, in Croydon, is likely to be that of a man of the same name who was born in Croydon in 1948.)

Re the third marriage, in 1987 -

a son of that marriage (with mmn spelled wrongly) was born in Warrington in 1989, with Alan as a middle name.

There are also four other children, three born in Warrington.

If that's the correct marriage, Michael and his wife are on the ER (not in Warrington) on Ancestry - and at the same address to 2024 on the GR version. Presumably still there.


I suspect the second possible marriage, in 1987, is also his, as it was registered in the same RD as the birth of the eldest child of the third marriage.

Hi Erika & ArgyllGran,

No I havent even looked at the Gorvetts in Neath.

Do think I got a bit confused with Eric AA (FATHER) , and Eric A (son).

Yes thats what I mentioned re: Hilda Feasby in the 1939 register.

The copy I saw had Gorvett crossed out and replaced with Feasby.

i cant find anything for the two sons Eric A and Michael apart from their biirths under Gorvett/Holding.

Maybe a marriage for Eric A in 1977 to Ashworth (Warrington)

and in 1974 for Michael 1974 to Plowright .

I have also tracked Eric AA father George F parents as William Harewood Gorvetts and mother as Rachael Sandall - their children were Leonard , George, John Joy and Florrie, so meantime will look at this family as much as I can to see if Eric AA pops up...but will request Hildas death cert to clarify name .

It would be very interesting if the surname Fletcher does pop up!! :)

Will be in touch once I have the cert. exciting - thank you so much .

Cheers,

Sue Holding

1939 Register
10 Vernon Road, Leeds, Leeds C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Helena E J Freeman 14 Aug 1872 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 88 1
Thomas B Freeman 05 Jun 1871 Male General Labourer Married 88 2
Dorien H Freeman 25 Sep 1923 Male Assistant Tea Warehouse Single 88 3
Pamela H McQuillan 07 Mar 1913 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 88 4
Seymour L T Paine 08 Dec 1915 Male Shop Assistant (Departmental Sales) Single 88 5
Clifford A Feasby 24 Oct 1898 Male Wholesale Gown Commercial Traveller Married 88 6

Not helping Sue's search - but.. . . . .:

I suggest Mr Feasby was Clifford Feasby, born Barnsley 1898, died WARRINGTON 1965.
Married Margaret Broadhead in Barnsley 1923, and had children.

In 1939,Margaret's in Darlington, and says she's married, but Clifford's not there - maybe in forces.
She also died in Darlington.

Not posting details, as there are living children and grandchildren.

Hilda's name was changed to Feasby on the 1939 Register, by the Runcorn office, on 19/11/1945.

Suggestion ONLY.....based purely on location and illegitimacy

FLETCHER, ERIC ALBERT -
GRO Reference: 1934 J Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 210 Occasional Copy: A

There is NO marriage for Feasby to a Hilda other than one in 1909. So she must have taken the name in the same way as she took Gorvett's name on 1939 Register.


The Register was updated on 19/11/1945 - several years before George Gorvett's death

As already said, you need Hilda's death cert to find out her maiden surname.

Then look for an illegitimate birth in that name, around 1935, for Eric A A or variations.

Sue
Don’t let yourself be sidetracked by the Gorvett records in Neath - for now, at least, you would do yourself a favour by completely ignoring them.

Concentrate on the ones who are shown to be relevant.

As I suggested earlier, you may need to consider that Eric’s birth name was NOT Gorvett

The marriage IS correct - Sue has the cert.

She has persisted in looking for Gorvett.. :-S :-S


Posting AGAIN the death for Hilda - as FEASBY

Name Hilda Feasby
Death Age 68
Birth Date 29 Jun 1903
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun 1972
Registration District Warrington
Inferred County Lancashire
Volume 10f
Page 1747

The marriage to HUSBAND has NO relevance......

This is THAT woman's death

Name Hilda Husband
Death Age 74
Birth Date abt 1891
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec 1965
Registration District Cleveland
Inferred County Yorkshire North Riding
Volume 1b
Page 683

I know you said that this isn't the marriage, and that this Betty had different parents - are you quite sure??

Posting again for our reference:

Marriages Mar 1956 (>99%)
Gornett Eric A A Holding Warrington 10f 1657
Holding Betty Gornett Warrington 10f 1657

Michael and Eric's births happen just after that, which seems a coincidence if that's not the correct marriage.

Hi Erika & ArgyllGran ,

Right I knew I had searched freebmd before so did it again , and yes it shows the girls marriages in 1953 , but not the marriage for Eric & Betty - I called up all Gorvett mMarriages Mar 1953 (>99%)
GORVETT Gwendolen WARBURTON Barton 10b548
GORVETT Joan CROKER Barton 10b530arriages ,,,,

Marriages Sep 1956 (>99%)
Gorvett Bernard Saunders Neath 8b 1095
Gorvett Dennis Board Oxford 6b 2240
Gorvett Maureen C Penrose Neath 8b 1096
Marriages Dec 1956 (>99%)
GORVETT Elizabeth KARIM Newton A. 7a 1001
Marriages Mar 1957 (>99%)

I have saved the two pages as a file , but have copied the Gorvett marriages for years 1953 & 1956 , best as I can here. When I searched under Gornett - The marriage is there. With Eric DOB and time of marriage 20 yrs later - it appears the marriage is that of the sun. Interesting one birth shows Warrington and the other is Runcorn.

I also found a marriage for Hilda Feasby ...to surname Husband.

Was also able to see Bettys death as you had advised, now I had correct name .

Yes I also found the two births of Michael and Eric , so I have two cousins I need to try and track down .

Thank you

Sue Holding

Hi Erika & ArgyllGran ,

Right I knew I had searched freebmd before so did it again , and yes it shows the girls marriages in 1953 , but not the marriage for Eric & Betty - I called up all Gorvett mMarriages Mar 1953 (>99%)
GORVETT Gwendolen WARBURTON Barton 10b548
GORVETT Joan CROKER Barton 10b530arriages ,,,,

Marriages Sep 1956 (>99%)
Gorvett Bernard Saunders Neath 8b 1095
Gorvett Dennis Board Oxford 6b 2240
Gorvett Maureen C Penrose Neath 8b 1096
Marriages Dec 1956 (>99%)
GORVETT Elizabeth KARIM Newton A. 7a 1001
Marriages Mar 1957 (>99%)

I have saved the two pages as a file , but have copied the Gorvett marriages for years 1953 & 1956 , best as I can here. When I searched under Gornett - The marriage is there. With Eric DOB and time of marriage 20 yrs later - it appears the marriage is that of the sun. Interesting one birth shows Warrington and the other is Runcorn.

I also found a marriage for Hilda Feasby ...to surname Husband.

Was also able to see Bettys death as you had advised, now I had correct name .

Yes I also found the two births of Michael and Eric , so I have two cousins I need to try and track down .

Thank you

Sue Holding

I know...............

Eric Gorvett with mmn Holding has no middle name, at least per birth reg.

Gorvett/Holding births are on freebmd................too recent to post on here

Who is whose son, ErikaH ?? :-S

His son???????????

That's only 3 years before the Alan E A Gorvett marriage.

If that's the same man - which does seem likely, or even probable - the third child of the first marriage was born more than a year after the date of the second marriage.

There is a marriage in Warrington for Eric A Gorvett......see freebmd..........plus children of that marriage.

NOT posting on here - too recent. You will have to access the info yourself, Sue