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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Oct 2019 10:16

Re the Cambridgeshire address mentioned by Shirley -

The ER on GR gives the dates of residence as 1998-2019.

However, on 192.com, it doesn't give any date of residence, and says the info is from Companies House.

Three other people associated with that address, per 192.com, are named Flisher, and there are dates given for them.
Two of them were there 2002-12, 2004-19. The third person's dates are 2009-2013.

Looking up the Flisher names on the GR ERs shows them at the same address, but Michelle isn't listed with them.

My guess is that Michelle doesn't live there, and has maybe only been associated with the address for business reasons at some time in the past.


That address was last sold in 1996.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Oct 2019 10:39

Interestingly (but maybe not relevant) -
looking further into the companiescheck.co.uk link provided by Rose, other directors of the company Michelle was associated with for a while are named Paynter.

Such a similar name is probably just coincidence.

But, looking at one of their names on the GR ERs, it gives the address for 1998-2019 (same dates as Michelle) as the same one the Flishers are now at, and where Michelle was listed through Companies House.
But looking at them on 192.com, there's no date, and the info is just from Companies House, just as for Michelle.

Look like it was just a business address for a while.

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Oct 2019 11:35



ArgyllGran, that does appear to be relevant as the two Paynter directors on listing with Michelle, are Brian Paynter and wife, who was Poynter, married 1995.

Wife appears at same current address as given for Michelle, which perhaps suggests that this Michelle was her daughter from a previous marriage, I can't see a record of that but it could just as easily be out of England /Wales.





Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Oct 2019 12:22

It may still be worth a letter though


They may know where she is and be willing to pass on any contact

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Oct 2019 12:51

Just a thought but have you seen the actual birth cert to confirm the parents names

As there isn’t a Poynter Griffiths marriage how do you know the mum was a Sheila

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Oct 2019 12:57

I have asked Caris where she obtained the legacy file she sent me 4 years ago, as there are some mistakes on it I wouldn't be sure of its accuracy. No reply as yet

I can't see where the Sheila Griffiths comes from without someone having had access to Michelle's birth cert ?? There are no dates listed on the file so no idea where or when Sheila was born to follow through.

Caris

Caris Report 24 Oct 2019 15:07

My dad when alive had told me he was with a sheila but I was given on gr by someone who see record marriage sheila Griffiths to george poynter and had michelle k poynter I appreciate all your help and il send letters to addresses I already have from you all x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Oct 2019 15:11

Ancestry suggests that Mrs Paynter, nee Poynter, was born Griffiths in Essex 1946 - mms Hughes.


I can't see any Griffiths/Poynter connection - and in any case 1946 doesn't fit with the age suggested for Mrs Paynter on the ER 2002-5 - but it's interesting that Ancestry should pick on the name Griffiths.


ADDED:

Does anyone know - when an age is given on the ER, is that the age in 2019 (or whenever one looks at it), or the age when the person was last recorded at the address?

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Oct 2019 16:38

ArgyllGran my eroll entry for a previous address up to 2008 is age range 51 to 55 ( I was 51 ) , age range up to this year at new address from 2010 to 2019 is 55-59 which is knocking a few years off my actual age lol. So not absolutely accurate.

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Oct 2019 16:45

Caris do you still have the message where someone on here said they had seen a marriage for Sheila to George? It should be in your messages if you have it, i still have yours to me and my replies from 2015.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Oct 2019 17:03

There isn’t any marriage for Sheila to poynter on freebmd

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Oct 2019 17:12

There are only two marriages for a George Poynter , no middle initial) on Freebmd one to Judith Laing, and another possible in Harlow to Pamela ( reg in two surnames for her, she had been married before) . Pamela remarried ( no children to marriage to George).

Caris

Caris Report 24 Oct 2019 18:03

I guess then my dad didn't marry sheila then. X is there any info on my dads brother edward poynter ? Mmn wright

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Oct 2019 18:25

No Edward. Not on your file, there's a John bn 1936?

"John married Sarah Maddison WRIGHT [57637] [MRIN: 17001] in Dec 1931 in South Shields, Durham. Sarah was
born on 30 Apr 1910 and died in Dec 1990 in South Shields, Durham aged 80.


Children from this marriage were:
i. Isabella POYNTER [57641]
ii. John POYNTER [57638] was born in Sep 1936 in South Shields, Durham and died in Mar 1938 in
South Shields, Durham aged 1.
iii. George POYNTER [57642

iv. Edith M. POYNTER [57643]
v. Nancy W. POYNTER [57644]
vi. John E. POYNTER [57645]
vii. Mary POYNTER [5

That ties in with what's on freebmd birth wise BUT there are two marriages for a Poynter to Wright , so you need to know which children belong to which marriage

Marriages Jun 1938 (>99%)

Poynter George Wright S.Shields 10a 1717
Wright Edith Poynter S.Shields 10a 1717

Marriages Dec 1931 (>99%)

Poynter John Wright S.Shields 10a 1458
Wright Sarah Poynter S.Shields 10a 1458

Presumably the later John is John Edward?

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Oct 2019 18:31

1939 register But the image is not showing George and Edith, They are on a different page but at the same address,

147 Victoria Road, South Shields C.B., Durham, England

Paynter household ** POYNTER on image
(4 people)

George Paynter 15 Apr 1915 Male Labourer General (Buildings Trade) Married 247 1
Edith Paynter 24 Jun 1916 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 247 2
The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?


George Poynter 27 Oct 1938 Male Under School Age Single 247 3

lot of closed records after George.

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Oct 2019 18:37

Sarah ( nee Wright) and John at 151 Victoria Road, South Shields C.B., Durham, England ( John Poynter senior and Annie Pointer at same address)
again Poynter on image

John Paynter 28 Nov 1912 Male Labourer General (Buildings Trade) Married 249 1
Sarah Paynter 30 Apr 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 249 2
The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?

The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Oct 2019 18:47

do you know if John E moved to Croydon also ? if so there is a possible marriage in 1971. if that's correct they were on eroll to last year.

Caris

Caris Report 24 Oct 2019 22:00

Yes he lived in croydon I believe can u send me details please. I believe by what um told george and edith had children george john and edith.
Sarah and john had Isabella dorothy and Nancy and Mary.

Most of my poynter family are deceased now. Was hoping I'd find some living relatives.

Caris

Caris Report 25 Oct 2019 18:37

I believe john e is deceased now ?

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Oct 2019 18:40

where has that info come from Caris? It must be recent as he was on the eroll to last year.