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Herbert Allen Cooper 1893 - 1917

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Ann Report 6 Oct 2017 10:27

Herbert Allen Cooper ACSM.
No. 17236
6th Battalion, The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment.
Killed in Action: 15/02/1917
Death Place: Mesopotamia

Wondering does anyone have access to Forces War Records, and could possibly give me details of any information on Herbert contained in the following document
"Memorial Register 38 Part 1 Basra Memorial, Iraq, A - C"

Also looking for any other information in connection with his Military Service or where I might obtain information.

Many thanks


Maddie Report 6 Oct 2017 11:02

Herbert Allen
Last name Cooper
Service number 17236
Rank A/c.S.M.
Regiment Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
Battalion 6th Battalion.
Birth place Bolton
Residence Horwich, Lancs
Enlistment place Bolton
Death year 1917
Death day 15
Death month 2
Cause of death Killed in action
Death place Mesopotamia
Theatre of war Asiatic Theatres
Supplementary Notes -
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

in the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Name: Herbert Allen Cooper
Gender: Male
Death Date: 15 Feb 1917
Death Place: Mesopotamia
Rank: Acting Company Sergeant Major
Regiment: Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
Regimental Number: 17236
Other Records: Search for 'Herbert Allen Cooper' in other WWI collections

executor and uncle thomas chisnall
£5 17s 5d

Name: Company Serjeant Major Herbert Allen Cooper
Death Date: 15 Feb 1917
Cemetery: Basra Memorial
Burial or Cremation Place: AL Basrah, Basra, Iraq
Has Bio?: N

of 14 melbourne grove horwich sgt 6th battalion royal lancs fusillers
to thomas chisnall school attendane officer
£98 5s 3d
Name: Herbert Allen Cooper
Death Date: 15 Feb 1917
Death Place: Lancashire, England
Probate Date: 15 Jun 1917
Registry: London, England

army record not on fmp or ancestry so may have been destroyed in ww11 bombing


Ann Report 6 Oct 2017 11:04

Thank you Maddie a great help :-) :-)


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Oct 2017 11:06

Have you checked the CWGC site? It might be the same thing. There’s nothing extra to add,-herbert-allen/

Over 70% of WW1 records were destroyed during WW2. Those which survived are listed on the National Archives with links to Ancestry. Medal cards were kept elsewhere- you can sometimes work out the ‘when’ if not the ‘where’. Regimental histories free on line can fill in some of the gaps.


Ann Report 6 Oct 2017 11:09

Thank you +++DetEcTive+++ will take a look


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Oct 2017 11:12

Medal card

Herbert Allan Cooper
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Acting Company Sergeant Major
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
Regimental Number: 17236
Previous Units: 6 N Lan R 17236 A/W.O Class II

Also awarded 15 Star. First entered a Theatre of War (Balkans) 14/11/1915


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Oct 2017 11:16

This is a good site for a potted history of regimental movements, battles etc. It also has a section about medals & their qualifying dates.

Regimental diaries are on the National Archives, May be linked to Ancestry. Although he probably won’t be mentioned by name, you could find the entry for the day he died.


Ann Report 6 Oct 2017 11:19

Thank you +++DetEcTive+++ :-)


Ann Report 6 Oct 2017 12:14

Have placed a request for information from The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment

Many thanks for everyone's help