Military Chat

My uncle Gilbert Gledstone served in the WW1 and was awarded the 15 star campaign medal . he served in the Manchester regiment as Lance Sergeant and the Cheshires and was Sergeant in the Cheshires.
He never spoke about this to my family , i found this information on doing my family tree.
He married my mums sister Josephine( aka Lois) Hampson there was no children.
So if anyone has anymore information re his military career or anything else about Gilbert please let me know.
Thanks Lesley Hulland( married name Shepherd)

Unfortunately at least 70% of the WW1 service records were destroyed as a result of WW2 bombing. It sounds as if you've already found what's available.

One further source are the Regimental Diaries which you can access/download from Ancestry. As a lowly NCO, its highly unlikely he'd been mentioned by name but you could read about the military action his regiments were involved in. Military records are free to access on Ancestry at the moment.

The fact that he was awarded the 15 Star meant he first served in a Theatre of War (France or Belgium) between 23 Nov 1914 & 31 Dec 1915. Any earlier & he would have been awarded the 14 Star. Is the date he entered the field of conflict recorded on one of the medal cards?

I'd imagine he also received the British War & Victory medals. The Stars & Medals make up "Pip, Squeak & Wilfred".

Entry for British & Victory medals.

Name: Gilbert Gledstone
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Sergeant
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Cheshire Regiment
Regimental Number: 69356

Previous Units: 13 Manch. R. Sgt. 6149, 13 Manch. R., Manch. R. Infantry Base Depot., 13 Manch. R., Manch. R. Infantry Base Depot., 13 Manch. R., Manch. R. Infantry Base Depot., 13 Manch. R., Manch. R. Infantry Base Depot., 9 Manch. R., Manch. R. Lewis Gun Course.

So he went on a Lewis Gun Course.

Name: Gilbert Gledstone
Military Year: 1914-1915
Rank: Lance Sergeant
Medal Awarded: 1914-15 Star
Regiment or Corps: Cheshire Regiment
Regimental Number: 6149
Previous Units: 13th M/C Rgt

First disembarked (in a theatre of War) 7 Sep 1915. He was a L/Sgt at the time. The list was compiled in 1919, by which time he was a full Seargeant.

Does 'anything else about him' include civilian records??

1939 Register after he married your Aunt in 1935

Gledstone Household (2 People)
2 Sheldon Road , Macclesfield R.D., Cheshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Gilbert Gledstone 18 Dec 1880 Male Electrical Installation Contractor (Master) Married
Josephine Gledstone 25 Oct 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed [incorrect transcription - Married]
..............
1911 census
Name: Gilbert Gledstone
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Blackwell, Durham, England
Civil Parish: North Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 5 Bignor St Cheetham Hill Manchester
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Electrician Lighting - fitting lights
Registration district: Prestwich
Registration District Number: 467
Sub-registration district: Cheetham
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 24189
..........
Possibly 1901
Name: Gilbert Gladstone
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: John Gladstone (occ Coal & Emergency? Supplies Merchant)
Mother: Ellen Gladstone
Birth Place: Blackpool, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Springfield

Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Springfield
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address:


Registration district: Chelmsford
Sub-registration district: Great Baddow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1674
Folio: 26
Page Number: 43
Household schedule number: 270
Household Members:
Name Age
John Gladstone 56 b Angerton, Northumberland,
Ellen Gladstone 55 b Darlington, Durham, England
Bertha Gladstone 29 b Blackpool? Durham
Gilbert Gladstone 20 <<<<<
Tom Gladstone 18 b Blackpool? Durham
Beata I Gladstone 16 b Blackpool? Durham
Frank Gladstone 12 b Thornbury, Yorkshire, England

The place of birth does look like Blackpool. Is there one in Durham??

Gilbert's death

Name: Gilbert Gledstone
Death Age: 89
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1880
Registration Date: Jun 1970
Registration district: Stockport
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 1353

in Spring 1920 he is listed on the ER at 24 Hill Road with
John Gledstone
Ellen Gledstone
Frank Gledstone

Gilbert
Last name Gledstone
Year 1920
Season Spring
Polling district or place Springfield
Constituency P C of Essex, Chelmsford Division
Constituency in full Parliamentary County of Essex, Chelmsford Division
County Essex
.......

First name(s) Gilbert
Last name Gledstone
Year 1925 (to 1931)
Season Autumn
Polling district or place Poynton with Worth
Constituency P C of Cheshire, Knutsford Division
Constituency in full Parliamentary County of Cheshire, Knutsford Division
County Cheshire
Country England
Register type Parliamentary County

Lostock Hall, Lostock Road

No family members listed at the same address.

Both Ancestry & FMP are highlighting this birth

GILBERT ETHELRED
Last name GLEDSTONE
Birth year 1881
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name -
District Darlington
County Durham
Country England
Volume 10A
Page 12

GRO version giving mmn
GLEDSTONE, GILBERT ETHELRED mmn LIGHTFOOT
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in DARLINGTON Volume 10A Page 12
........

Both FMP & Ancestry suggest this as an 1891. Later census give his father as a Coal merchant. Rather a change of direction for a Banker!!

Name: Gilbert E Gladstone
[Gilbert E Gledstone]
Gender: Male
Age: 10
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1881
Father: John Gladstone (occ Banker)
Mother: Ellen Gladstone
Birth Place: Blackwell, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Thornaby
Residence Place: South Stockton, Thornaby, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Thornaby
ED, Institution or Vessel: 11

Piece: 4021
Folio: 57
Household Members:
Name Age
John Gladstone 47 - Augerton, Northumberland,
Ellen Gladstone 45 - Darlington, Durham
John E Gladstone 15 - Haughton-le-Skerne, Durham,
Lizzie B Gladstone 19 - Darlington, Durham
Nellie M Gladstone 13 - Haughton-le-Skerne, Durham
Alice J Gladstone 12 - Haughton-le-Skerne
Gilbert E Gladstone 10 - Blackwell, Durham
Tom S P Gladstone 8 - Blackwell, Durham
Beatrice E Gladstone 6 - Darlington, Durham
Frank A Gladstone 2 - Sth Stockton, Yorkshire

Are there 2 Gilbert Gledstones???

That is the only Gilbert Gledstone who would be of an age to marry in 1935 (which is when he married Josephine). Perhaps as he was older when he married that might be a reason for there being no children to the marriage.

He doesn't give a middle initial on the marriage though.

Kath. x

Findmypast has a record of him being wounded on 27th April 1917.

Kath. x

Gilbert E. Gledstone
in the UK, Electrical Engineer Lists, 1871-1930
Name: Gilbert E. Gledstone
Membership Type: Student
Admission Year: 1904
Residence: 16 Birch Grove, Levenshulme, Manchester
List Year: 1906


Gilbert E. Gledstone
in the UK, Electrical Engineer Lists, 1871-1930
Name: Gilbert E. Gledstone
Membership Type: Student
Admission Year: 1904
Residence: 16 Birch Grove, Levenshulme, Manchester
List Year: 1904


Gilbert E. Gledstone
in the UK, Electrical Engineer Lists, 1871-1930
Name: Gilbert E. Gledstone
Membership Type: Student
Admission Year: 1904
Residence: 16 Birch Grove, Levenshulme, Manchester
List Year: 1905