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Hi Ingrid in Oz,
Thanks for the clarification, I am glad the Australian Govt kept everything simple.
Cheers

Hi Geoff
For Clarification

Registration Number/Year Groom's Surname Groom's Given Name(s) Bride's Last Name at Time of Marriage Bride's Given Name(s) District
6248/1945 HENSHAW WALLACE DUGDALE WINIFRED LILY SYDNEY

All can be found & Purchased from
www.bdm.nsw.gov.au

Cheers

Hi MEgirl, thanks for the info it all helps to complete the picture.
Regards.
Geoff

Hi Anastasia, Thanks for the information. You will have seen my reply to Ingrid - no doubt the story will develop!!
Regards, Geoff

Hi Ingrid, thanks for the info. However as my knowledge of how Australian official documents show names, can you please clarify the official entry for me in terms of surnames and give names of the people involved. The problem I have is that I have not been able to contact any of Wallace Henshall's relatives in the UK and none of my family are aware of any divorce from my Aunt Maude after he returned to Australia after the war.
Thanks for your help,
Geoff

Hi Patricia, first of all a thousand apologies for calling you Anna - I don't know what I was thinking about. Thanks for the information, I will check on Alfred but Richard does not appear in any of my records so will make a note just in case he pops up in the future.
Geoff

Hi ***alviegal***
Yes I am receiving a great deal of useful information but most of it will have to wait to be sorted until I am back in the UK from holiday next week. Your latest missive with the census returns has highlighted my inexperience in family research as you report a different Henshall family to the one I have - even though mine are also from Alderley Edge. In my 1911 census there is no mention of the Alfred who appears in yours (amongst other variations). However I am learning not to take things at face value which is part of the learning curve. I am looking forward to sorting all the very helpful replies when I get back to my home computer next week and am very grateful for all the help I have received so far.
Geoff

What a lot of great information you've received Geoff! I think this is the Alfred who went to Oz at the same time.

1891 census transcription details for: Waltons Farm, Welsh Row, Alderley, Nether Alderley
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2819 Folio: 5 Page: 3

Reg. District: Macclesfield Sub District: Alderley
Parish: Alderley Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: Alderley City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Waltons Farm, Welsh Row, Alderley, Nether Alderley
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
HENSHALL, Thomas Head Married M 54 1837 Farmer
Nether AlderleyCheshire
HENSHALL, Marion Wife Married F 44 1847
SuttonNottinghamshire
HENSHALL, Samuel Son Single M 18 1873 Postman
CheshireAdswood
HENSHALL, Mary Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Nether AlderleyCheshire
HENSHALL, William Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Nether AlderleyCheshire
HENSHALL, Alfred Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Nether AlderleyCheshire
HENSHALL, Millie Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar
Nether AlderleyCheshire
>>HENSHALL, Wallace Son M 2 1889
Nether AlderleyCheshire



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Wallace Henshall
>>Name: Wallace Henshall
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 4
District: Macclesfield
County: Cheshire, Derbyshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 109



1901 census transcription details for: Welsh Row, Nether Alderley
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 3317 Folio: 10 Page: 12

Reg. District: Macclesfield Sub District: Alderley
Parish: Nether Alderley Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: Nether Alderley St Marys City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Welsh Row, Nether Alderley
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
HENSHALL, Thomas Head Married M 65 1836 Farmer
Nether AlderleyCheshire
HENSHALL, Marrion Wife Married F 55 1846
Sutton in AshfieldNottinghamshire
HENSHALL, William Son Single M 21 1880 Trooper Imp Yeomanry
AlderleyCheshire
HENSHALL, Alfred Son Single M 19 1882 Farmers Son
AlderleyCheshire
HENSHALL, Millie Daughter Single F 14 1887
AlderleyCheshire
HENSHALL, Annie Daughter Single F 9 1892
AlderleyCheshire
HENSHALL, Margaret Daughter Single F 8 1893
AlderleyCheshire



1911 census transcription details for: Nether Alderley Chelford
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN21501 RG78PN1281 RD444 SD6 ED1 SN64

Reg. District: Macclesfield Sub District: Alderley
Parish: Nether Alderley Enum. District: 1
Address: Nether Alderley Chelford
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
HENSHALL, Thomas Head Widower M 73 1838 Farmer Cheshire Alderley
HAGUE, Mary Sister Widow F 75 1836 Cheshire Alderley
HENSHALL, Samuel Son Married M 37 1874 Farmers Son Working On Farm Cheshire Adswood
HENSHALL, Florence Daughter In Law Married
7 years F 32 1879 Lincolnshire Bassingham
HENSHALL, Alfred Son Single M 29 1882 Farmers Son Working On Farm Cheshire Alderley
HENSHALL, Millie Daughter Single F 24 1887 Dairy Work And C Cheshire Alderley
HENSHALL, Millie Granddaughter F 5 1906 Cheshire Stockport
HENSHALL, Harry Grandson M 1 1910 Cheshire Stockport

Hi Geoff,

I checked the Ryerson Index and Wallace actually died in the Concord Repatriation and General Hospital on 10/12/1958, late of Lawson aged 63 yrs. This was the main hospital for veterans in NSW. Lawson is up in the Blue Mountains, so he was a couple of hours from home; not being treated locally (listed Sydney Morning Herald 11/12/1958).

Cheers

Hi Geoff

Found this Marriage, mistranscribed?, which would fit with Wife on Death
6248/1945 HENSHAW WALLACE DUGDALE WINIFRED LILY SYDNEY
Cemetery: Lawson General
Henshall Wallace
Death Date: 10 Dec 1958
Remarks: 2510 Pte 54 Bn AIF; h/Winifred

This one would fit the Electoral Rolls of 1930 & 1933
10205/1924 HENSHAW WALLACE ARNOLD QUEENIE M H ASHFIELD
Can't find a Death under Henshaw/Henshall maybe they Divorced.

Hi Tony,
Thanks for the info. The last time I saw 'home duties' on an electoral roll was a husband who had put it down as his wife's occupation - but as you cannot see a marriage maybe she just lived with him and changed her name because he couldn't get married!!! Thanks for all your help.
Regards,
Geoff

Hi Geoff.

Good luck.

Cant see any 2nd marriage for a Wallace Henshall in N.S.W up to 1956.

Only one listed on Electorol Roll for N.S.W up to 1933....so thought i would list him ( just in case )


1930 Electorol Roll N.S.W

Name: Wallace Henshall
Gender: Male
Occ: Firbro mixer
Electoral Year: 1930
State: New South Wales
District: Martin
Subdistrict: Croydon
16 Shaftsbury road, Burwood
Living at same address....... Queenie Henshall ( home duties )

1933
Name: Wallace Henshall
Gender: Male
Occ: Firbro mixer
Electoral Year: 1933
State: New South Wales
District: Martin
Subdistrict: Concord
38 Zoella street, Concord
Living at same address....... Queenie Henshall ( home duties )





Cheers. Tony

Thanks Tony, the Australian Govt is very efficient with its digitisation and I have already found Wallace's military record. I shall order a copy of his death certificate to see what is on it - there has been no mention by anyone of a divorce from my Aunt, the general comment is that he just 'disappeared'. I see from his record that he went AWOL at the date of his marriage. I shall have to look at his son's Royal Navy record to find out when the son was born to see whether Wallace decided to "do the right thing" by my Aunt (they lived fairly close together).
Geoff

Hi Geoff,
Alfred Henshall returned to London arriving 29/3/1913 on the ship Orvieto. His age was then 31yrs and was noted as a labourer.
There was a Richard Henshall arriving in NSW in 1913. Don't know if he is one of yours.
Regards,
Patricia.

Hi Geoff.

If you copy/paste this link, hopefully it will take you straight to his record.

You can view a Digital copy of his service records on-line or request a copy

See: View digital copy ( record ) Request copy ...Top right hand side

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

Search as a Guest: ....Type into box ( Keywords ) WALLACE HENSHALL
Afte leaving Australia he appears to have disembarked at Plymouth Nov 1916
His marriage to Maude BAILEY ( 22nd July 1918 ) in the U.K is also recorded here.( page 7 of 28 pages )

Fate: Meant he returned to Australia after his service and not killed, or held as a P.O.W

Yes, his death cert should hold his marital status and any children, ( deceased and living )and any other marriages he may have had. Also his last address.
Under normal circumstances ( pending of imformant ) Death certs in Australia hold quite a bit of detail.
Tony

Hi Tony, thanks a lot. This certainly fills in a lot of the gaps as well as posing more questions (which I hope you can help with). What department in Canberra N.S.W. I should contact about his military record? What does the word Fate (in Fate Returned...) mean. Would his death certificate indicate his marital status? If I can get in touch with his family I may be able to find out what happened between his return to UK in 1916 and arriving back in Australia in 1918 apart from getting married and having a son. Also why there appears to have been no contact between him and my aunt in the intervening years (such is the joy of researching family history). I shall contact the N.S.W. Registry Office to see about a copy of the death certificate. Thanks for your help. Geoff

Hi Geoff.

N.A.A ( National Archives of Australia )
HENSHALL Wallace : Service Number - 2510 : Place of Birth - Manchester England : Place of Enlistment - Sydney NSW : Next of Kin - (Mother) HENSHALL Florence
Born Alderly Edge, Manchester England



World War 1 enlistment ( Australia - details held in Canberra N.S.W )

Wallace HENSHALL

Regimental number 2510
Religion Church of England
Occupation Drover
Address Aderton Road, Dundas, Sydney, New South Wales
Marital status Single
Age at embarkation 19
Next of kin Mother, Mrs Florence Henshall, Rose Cottage, Alderly Edge, Manchester, England
Enlistment date 15 May 1916
Rank on enlistment Private
Unit name 54th Battalion, 5th Reinforcement
AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/71/3
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board HMAT A60 Aeneas on 30 September 1916
Unit from Nominal Roll 54th Battalion
Fate Returned to Australia 24 December 1918
Date of death --/12/1958
Age at death 62
Place of burial Church of England Section, Grave number 12, Row A, Lawson, New South Wales


Death N.S.W Registry office ( 1958 )
28992/1958 HENSHALL WALLACE Father: WALLACE Mother: FLORENCE District: MARRICKVILLE

Inscription for Wallace Henshall ( Wall Plaque ) Lawson General Cem. N.S.W...On-Line

http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=4984414

Cemetery: Lawson General
Family Name: Henshall
Given Names: Wallace
Birth Date:
Death Date: 10 Dec 1958
Age: 62y
Remarks: 2510 Pte 54 Bn AIF; h/Winifred
Portion: Ang
Row: A


Tony ( Australia )

Thank you ***alviegal*** the first two items are the same as I have found, but the migration to Australia is new. I wonder who the 30 year old Alfred Henshall is as he is not an immediate relative but could of course be an uncle - age 15 seems a very young age to be emigrating but at least now I can start searching for when he returned. I am presuming he enlisted into the Australian Army and this is where the Australian Contingent comes from - hopefully someone can point me in the right direction to find information about this body. So far I have not been able to make contact with Wallace's immediate family but I will keep trying. Thanks for your help, Geoff Bailey

And leaving for Australia.


Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: Wallace HENSHALL
Date of departure: 23 May 1912
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Sydney
Destination country: Australia
Date of Birth: 1897 (calculated from age)
Age: 15
Marital Status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Farm Hand
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 18 of 24
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Alfred HENSHALL 30 years old, farm hand
Ship: GEELONG
Official Number: 118426
Master's name: G G Millington
Steamship Line: P. & O. Branch Service
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 14502
Registered tonnage: 5029
Passengers on voyage: 745

This isn't him, is it?


1901 census transcription details for: Gore Lane, Chorley
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 3317 Folio: 81 Page: 9

Reg. District: Macclesfield Sub District: Alderley
Parish: Chorley Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: Chorley St Philips City/Municipal Borough: Ecclesiastical parish: Lindow St John
Address: Gore Lane, Chorley
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
HENSHALL, Joseph Head Married M 37 1864 Fruiterer & Farmer
StockportCheshire
HENSHALL, Florence Wife Married F 29 1872
StockportCheshire
HENSHALL, Marion Daughter Single F 6 1895
StockportCheshire
HENSHALL, Wallace Son Single M 4 1897
StockportCheshire
HENSHALL, William Son Single M 2 1899
StockportCheshire
HENSHALL, Hannah Daughter F 0 (6 MOS) 1901
Alderley EdgeCheshire
ROYLE, Hannah Aunt Single F 47 1854 Towel Weaver
StockportCheshire



1911 census transcription details for: Little Moss Great Warford Alderley Edge
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN21503 RG78PN1281 RD444 SD6 ED3 SN149

Reg. District: Macclesfield Sub District: Alderley
Parish: Great Warford Enum. District: 3
Address: Little Moss Great Warford Alderley Edge
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
SLACK, Harriet Head Single F 45 1866 Farmer Cheshire Mobberley
RICHARDSON, Arthur Servant Widower M 57 1854 Working On Farm Hayle Glove Cheshire
HENSHALL, Wallace Servant M 14 1897 Farm Laborer Chorley Cheshire