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Shirley

Shirley Report 18 Mar 2018 13:50

Please could anyone find Jane Duxbury formerly tattersall nee Jennings on the 1891 census ..maybe living in oswaldtwistle . She was born in 1851 in oswaldtwistle. Married mark Duxbury in 1872. Think already had a child out of wedlock named Samuel jennings/ duxbury born in 1870. Samuel married nancy scholes in 1893 where he ststes that mark Jennings was his dad. I am thinking he meant mark Duxbury who died in 1875 and who was his step dad and possible father ..or not ?
I am wondering if Jane married again after mark Duxbury died in 1875. She was still a Widow in the 1881 census living with her son and daughter . This is connected to the Hurst post but i am unsure how to connect it. Sorry :-S

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Mar 2018 13:54

Have you tried looking for possible marriage info on the two free Lancashire sites?
Or on freebmd?

For INFO

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Back Off James Street, Church, Blackburn, Lancashire, England

Jane Duxbury Head Widow Female 30 1851 Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver Transcription
Samuel Duxbury Son Single Male 11 1870 Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England Coal Miner Transcription
Sarah Ann Duxbury Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England Scholar Transcription
Thomas Tattersall Boarder Single Male 16 1865 Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England - Transcription
John Tattersall Boarder Single Male 19 1862 Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England - Transcription
Alfred Pendlebury Boarder Single Male 16 1865 Lancaster, Lancashire, England - Transcription

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Mar 2018 13:58

The daughter in 1891

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Dineley Street, Church, Blackburn, Lancashire, England

John Tattersall Head Married Male 29 1862 Lancashire, England Coal Miner Transcription
Agnes Tattersall Wife Married Female 31 1860 Blackburn, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver Transcription
George W Tattersall Son - Male 7 1884 Lancashire, England Scholar Transcription
Sarah E Tattersall Daughter - Female 4 1887 Lancashire, England - Transcription
Rose H Tattersall Daughter - Female 1 1890 Lancashire, England - Transcription
Sarah Tattersall Lodger Single Female 61 1830 Lancashire, England Cotton Winder Transcription
Thomas Tattersall Lodger Married Male 26 1865 Lancashire, England Coal Miner Transcription
Jane Tattersall Lodger Married Female 22 1869 Lancashire, England Cotton Winder Transcription
Sarah A Duxbury Lodger Single Female 18 1873 Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver Transcription
Charlotta Richardson Lodger Married Female 24 1867 Lancashire, England Servant Domestic Transcription
Joseph Richardson Lodger - Male 1 1890 Lancashire, England - Transcription
Eizz Richardson Lodger - Female 4 1887 Lancashire, England - Transcription

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Mar 2018 14:04

Possible death - in which case, she didn't re-marry



Name: Jane Duxbury
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 51
Registration district: Blackburn
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 316

Needs checking - possibly a year too old

Shirley

Shirley Report 18 Mar 2018 14:11

Yes looked and still not found yet ...am still searching ..thanks for finding Sarah ann ... :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Mar 2018 14:15

Name: Jane Jenienne
[Jane Tattersall]
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Tattersall
Mother's name: Sarah Tattersall
Gender: Female
Where born: Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Oswaldtwistle
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Oswaldtwistle
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 136
Piece: 4185
Folio: 48
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
John Tattersall 42
Sarah Tattersall 41
Joseph Tattersall 18
Edward Tattersall 15
Mary E Tattersall 13
John Tattersall 9
Thomas Tattersall 6
Charlotte Tattersall 4
Elizabeth A Tattersall 1
Jane Jenienne 20
Saranel Jenienne 1



Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
Duxbury Mark Blackburn 8e 564
TATTERSALL Jane Blackburn 8e 564


Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%)
Jennings Sarah Blackburn 8e 292
Tattersall John Blackburn 8e 292

So Jane was Sarah's illegitimate daughter

Tattersall was her stepfather's name

Shirley

Shirley Report 18 Mar 2018 14:15

Strange that birth of both her children Samuel and Sarah ann say mothers maiden name Jennings ..but she married as Jane tattersall . Not figured that one out yet . :-S

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Mar 2018 16:08

She seems to have been brought up as, and known as, Tattersall:

Jane Tattersall
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Jane Tattersall
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Tattersall
Mother's name: Sarah Tattersall
Gender: Female
Where born: Lankshire, Oswaldtwisle
Civil Parish: Oswaldtwistle
Ecclesiastical parish: Emanuel
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Oswaldtwisle
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Piece: 3107
Folio: 4
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
John Tattersall 32
Sarah Tattersall 30
Jane Tattersall 10
Joseph Tattersall 8
Edward Tattersall 5
Mary Ellen Tattersall 3
Isaac Tattersall 1



John married her mother when Jane was only two, so she would never have known any other father.

Perhaps the question should rather be - why is she Jennings in 1871 census, and at Samuel's birth in 1870, when she's Tattersall everywhere else?(Apart from at her own birth)
Maybe something to do the fact of having an illegitimate child??

Shirley

Shirley Report 18 Mar 2018 17:22

Yes i thought that ..well done for finding her. You would think that she would put Jane Jennings for her marriage certificate and tattersall on all the census. As marriage cert usually more official. Samuel when on the 1881 was called Samuel Duxbury :-S

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Mar 2018 20:38

The census info would normally have been provided by the head of the household. It is very unlikely that Jane would have been consulted.

She hasn’t definitely been found after 1881, and I can’t, as yet, see Samuel either

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Mar 2018 20:48

Does below relate?, came across it this morning, on other 'Thread'...

Chris :)

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1297798?d=asc&page=1

lancashireAnn Report 23 Apr 2012 22:41

Is that the right Jane Duxbury - I may have missed it but this Jane was formerly Tattersall

Marriage: 25 Jan 1876 St James, Church Kirk, Lancashire, England
John Chippendale - Full Pointsman Bachelor of Oswaldtwistle
Jane Duxbury - (X), Full Widow of Oswaldtwistle
Groom's Father: Peter Chippendale, Engineer
Bride's Father: John Tattersall, Labourer
Witness: James Jackson; William Foulds
Married by Banns by: Danl. M. Sykes
Register: Marriages 1868 - 1879, Page 185, Entry 369


edit - sorry Shirley I had missed it

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DUXBURY Mark TATTERSALL Jane Blackburn Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackburn RM/50/103
Source: LDS Film 1478023


https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1367406

(samuel duxbury born 1870)

(and above, I found newspaper article on them)


Edits (adds below for Mark/Jane, his burial 9 days after father Mark)

Birth
DUXBURY, JOHN THOMAS (TATTERSALL)
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 428


Burial: 29 Jun 1875 Immanuel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
John Thomas Duxbury -
Age: 5 Mos
Abode: Tinker Bridge
Buried by: James A. Poole, Curate
Register: Burials 1872 - 1879, Page 86, Entry 681
Source: LDS Film 1470817


How many more Duxbury 'Threads' are there, lol...

Shirley

Shirley Report 18 Mar 2018 23:53

Oh no ..already had this info and didn't realize ...i need to find a better way of keeping track than lots of note books . I am not sure how o search my previous threads on here ...thanks for spotting that Chris ...i need to be more organized . I think i have tried every family member and every angle now to try discover which john duxbury is the one I'm searching for. I think i am fighting a,losing battle and should just accept its a brick wall. :-S

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Mar 2018 07:20

If you look to left of page here, see heading 'Tools'...(then underneath) My threads...
That should help to find them.

Unfortunately it seems such a common surname!, and as said before, quite a few Thomas, with Father as John on below...(so can see the frustration of situation!)

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

We have to live in hope, with brick walls, lol...

Chris :)

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 19 Mar 2018 09:09

If there is ever a chance of exchanging certificates or copies of parish records with people researching DUXBURY in the same area, you may be able to compare signatures and see if any match up.

A friend was able to do this and successfully matched a James in her family, who married first in Newcastle area and as a widower married a 2nd time in Southampton.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2018 09:30

Re finding your old threads -

As Chris says - "Tools", then "My Threads".
But after that, look at the paragraph at the top of the list of threads, and select "My Threads - Started". Assuming you've sometimes contributed to other people's threads, that will weed out all the threads which are nothing to do with your own searches.


If this were my search, I'd be inclined to buy a copy of that 1902 death cert posted earlier by Erika.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Mar 2018 13:23

(seeing below for info., could possibly be her below for that 1902, credits needed to view)

Chris :)

https://www.blackburn.gov.uk/Pages/Cremation-and-burial-records.aspx

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

Burial Register summary

Duxbury Jane
Burial date 24 January 1902
Location Lancashire

Shirley

Shirley Report 4 Apr 2018 17:14

Thanks guys. You've been brill. Will do , and I'm still waiting my cousin to get back with details of the Thomas,duxbury and Ann marriage to maybe get the name of Anne,s father .
:-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Apr 2018 17:19

Presumably, Thomas Duxbury and wife Ann are the subject of one of your other threads.............

When did their marriage take place?

Shirley

Shirley Report 22 Apr 2018 22:34

1844/45 without checking notes. in oswaldtwistle.

Shirley

Shirley Report 22 Apr 2018 22:37

sorry , been ill and in and out of hospital so not keeping track and have moved three times in past year so things get confused. i am so grateful for everyones help and hope ive not caused too much hassle. You are all amazing on here for the amount of time and help and advice you give. so thankyiu very much. :-)