Isabella Carmichael b1828 Fraserburgh, Aberdeen

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Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 25,066 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	18 Jul 2018 22:18
	There's no Carmichael / Thornton marriage showing on Scotlands People.
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	18 Jul 2018 22:35
	Marriages Mar 1844 (>99%) CARMICHAEL Isabella Preston 21 404 xxxxxxxxxxxxx CARR Ellen Preston 21 404 ECKLESLEY Frances Preston 21 404 FAWCETT Charlotte Preston 21 404 HUNTER Peter Preston 21 404 MONAGHAN William Preston 21 404 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx SMITH Patrick Preston 21 404 WARING George Preston 21 404
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	18 Jul 2018 22:38
	???? 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Factory, Penwortham, Preston, Lancashire, England Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Robert Carmichael Male 50 1791 Ireland Transcription James Carmichael Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England Transcription Robert Carmichael Male 6 1835 Lancashire, England Transcription Mary Carmichael Female 45 1796 Ireland Transcription Margaret Carmichael Female 20 1821 Ireland Transcription Mary Carmichael Female 15 1826 Ireland Transcription Lewis Carmichael Female 13 1828 Lancashire, England Transcription Elizabeth Carmichael Female 8 1833 Lancashire, England ???? robert could be a tailor
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	18 Jul 2018 22:49
	Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1844 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference MONAGHAN William CARMICHAEL Isabella Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston
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Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 25,066 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	19 Jul 2018 11:04
	Wonder why he added Thornton to his name? Some time between 1844 and 1861, possibly while in Africa.
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Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 25,066 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	19 Jul 2018 11:24
	Or between 1858 and 1861 ? MONAGHAN, HENRY JAMES mms CARMICHAEL GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in LANCASTER Volume 08E Page 511 THORNTON, TERESA JENNET MONAGHAN mms CARMICHAEL GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 472
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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,502 Send Message	greyghost	Report	19 Jul 2018 11:47
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,502 Send Message	Daughter Isabella born 1857 Africa according to census, then Henry 1859 in Lancaster. By 1861 William is recorded as an Army Pensioner. So perhaps if he left Service 1857/8 time then after that is when it was added (did he disgrace himself somehow) I wondered initially if the marriage particulars had been completed wrongly with Monaghan being thought to be his surname and the Thornton left off, buf it goes to the children's births as well? Under what name did the children marry?
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,502 Send Message	greyghost	Report	19 Jul 2018 12:09
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,502 Send Message	Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%) MERCER Alice Preston 8e 858 Scan available - click to view THORNTON Robert Preston 8e 858 Scan available - click to view WAREING Joseph Preston 8e 858 Scan available - click to view Western Nancy Preston 8e 858 ------------------- 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 170, New Hall Lane, Preston, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Elizabeth Western Head Single Female 45 1836 Yealand Redmayne, Lancashire, England Stationer And News Agent John R Western Brother Widower Male 34 1847 Yealand Redmayne, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver Ellis Western Nephew Single Male 9 1872 Preston, Lancashire, England Scholar Robert Thornton Brother In Law Married Male 32 1849 Africa Tailor Nancy Thornton Sister Married Female 36 1845 Yealand Redmayne, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver John Thornton Nephew Single Male 6 1875 Preston, Lancashire, England Scholar
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,502 Send Message	greyghost	Report	19 Jul 2018 12:16
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,502 Send Message	Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%) HOLDEN Margaret Alice Preston 8e 781 HOTHERSALL Walter Preston 8e 781 PICKETT William Preston 8e 781 THORNTON Isabella Preston 8e 781 ----------------------------- 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 2, Yard Upper King Street, Lancaster, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation William Pickett Head Married Male 26 1855 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England - Isabella Pickett Wife Married Female 24 1857 South Africa - William Pickett Son Single Male 2 1879 Lancaster, Lancashire, England - Robert Pickett Son single Male 1 1880 Lancaster ------------------------------ Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: PICKETT, ROBERT THORNTON Order GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in LANCASTER Volume 08E Page 762
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	alviegal	Report	19 Jul 2018 12:20
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	safc I think the occupation for Robert Carmichael in the 1841 census is Twister not tailor. Of course he could have changed occupations.
Member Since: June 2006 Posts: 233 Send Message	June	Report	19 Jul 2018 19:22
Member Since: June 2006 Posts: 233 Send Message	The name Change to Thornton came in when the family moved from Ireland to England and was due to the negative English attitudes to the Irish, It was thought that the children would stand a better chance of integrating with a more 'english' name.

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