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Hello
I wonder if anyone could find a birth for William Henry Card c1867 Liverpool

I have his marriage to Jane Grimshaw and from that I know his father was Albert Card.

I have William on the 1901 and 1911 census.

It is before then that I am trying to find him.

here is his marriage

23 Jul 1887 • St Thomas Wigan Lancashire
William Henry Card - 21, Loomer, Bachelor, 5 Herbert Street
Jane Grimshaw - (X), 26, Spinster, 5 Herbert St.
Groom's Father: Albert Card, Sea Captain
Bride's Father: James Grimshaw, Collier
Witness: Robert Ormsher, (X); Alice Burns

I would love to know more about William before his marriage and his father Albert

Any help would be very much appreciated

Thank you

Can we assume that you have looked yourself on freebmd?

For DOB as given by the man, but not matching age when married, which would relate to a birth in 1866

1939
Name: William H Card
Gender: Male
Marital status: Widow
Birth Date: 24 May 1867
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 4
Residence Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Textile Operative

1891 - as you don't mention it

Name: William H Cord
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1867
Spouse: Mary J Cord
Child: James Cord
Ambrozine Cord
Ellen Cord
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Wigan
Residence Place: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Sub registration district: Wigan
ED, Institution or Vessel: 31

Piece: 3053
Folio: 119
Household Members:
Name Age
William H Cord 24
Mary J Cord 29
James Cord 4
Ambrozine Cord 3
Ellen Cord 1/12

William's occupation: Railway Porter

ErikaH

I have looked on Freebmd and on Lancashire opc and on Lancashire BMD

But cant find him

'Sea Captain' seems an unlikely occupation for the father, although William's birthplace of Liverpool may give credence to the idea

ErikaH

That is them on the 1891 I hadn't seen that.
Jane's name is down as Mary J
but it definitely them as the children are correct
Thank you

As his birth was before 1875, it may simply not have been registered.

Address for both parties when they married was 5, Herbert Street.

Was either of them there in 1881?

ErikaH

Im not sure how to search by address

There is below...(Died at Sea) not sure if relating though...

Chris :)

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=card&yearOfDeath=1873&page=4#calendar


Edits (just found, would have been below, so no good for Father of William!)

Card Albert 1852 1873 1873 British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials At Sea
(Ship Name "Palmas". Age 21. Cause, Consumption. Description of Voyage, Calcutta) (official Number of Ship, 54394)

(seems he was on route from Calcutta to Dundee)

Chris
That looks promising
Thank you

does that mean that Charles Jeramiah Card was Alberts Father ?

Thank you

just going back to work but will be back later.

am I looking at a possibility of

William Henry Card

his father was
Albert Card

His father was
Charles Jeramiah Card

????

Thanks everyone for your help I'll be back later
Linda

Linda -

Chris has amended the post, and says that the Albert who died at sea is NOT William's father.

Oh I thought he was saying the 2nd one he had found was not Albert the father of william

I'm confused now

Linda

Oh I thought he was saying the 2nd one he had found was not Albert the father of william

I'm confused now

Linda

I would doubt that William actually knew his father

Look carefully at the info - which shows that Albert was only 21 when he died.

Sorry if I sound a bit dim but am I right in thinking that the Calvert in the will could be William's father but died very young.
I'm struggling to get my head around this. Doesn't help I'm on my break at work
I'll keep looking for William's birth or see if I can find him on the 1881census
Thank you everyone for your help
Linda

sorry but meant Albert not Calvert

Below comes up...

Chris :)

01 May 1872 - Lloyd's List - London, London, England

LLOYD’S CAPTAINS’ REGISTER. Board of Trade, Apl. 27, 1872.
The following is a list of Captains to whom Masters’ Certificates have been issued by the Registrar-General of Seamen. During the week ending 27th April, together with the names of the Ports where examinations took place.

Albert Card Liverpool