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Joseph Blackham 11/11/1635 West Bromwich

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Ellen

Ellen Report 22 Mar 2020 09:44

I posted this post back in 2013 & was wondering if there is any new records being added since then that can help with my query?

I have for 13 years been trying to find who my 6x Great Grandfather Joseph Blackham married?
I know he was born 11th November 1635 at West Bromwich Staffordshire ,died 1716 Wolverhampton son of Thomas Blackham born a 1608 Wolverhampton died 1647 West Bromwich & Elinor Heath born 1612 Elistone Staffordshire ,died 1679 West Bromwich they married 23rd July 1633 West Bromwich

I know Joseph had children Joseph 1665 died 1716 Married Alice Hipkiss 21/8/1691 & Elizabeth ? whether there were any other children I do not know

I do have all of the tree from Joseph born 1665 my 5x Great Grandfather to the present day,so really only looking for Joseph's wife's name. Any help gratefully received
Thank you

Maddie

Maddie Report 22 Mar 2020 10:46

does'nt appear to be a marrriage on fmp or ancestryt
but yousay he died 1716
is this the record, different fathers name

Joseph
Last name Blackham
Death year 1716
Death date ? ? 1716
Burial year 1716
Burial date 28 Apr 1716
Burial place Wolverhampton, St Peter
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Richard
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1157/1/1/62

this birth


Joseph
Last name Blackham
Baptism year 1713
Baptism date 31 Mar 1713
Baptism place Wolverhampton, St Peter
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Richard
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1157/1/1/3


can't see any other childrens births apart from joseph jnr in 1665

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Mar 2020 10:57

Just in case anyone's looking for Ellen's earlier post -
it was in 2017, and there were no replies - only the post which she has copied above.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Mar 2020 13:35

I agree with Maddie - the 1716 death is almost certainly that of a child

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Mar 2020 13:38

Please say how you've proved that Joseph (1635) was the father of Joseph (1665)

Ellen

Ellen Report 22 Mar 2020 14:27

Joseph Blackham

?Birth
15 November 1635
West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Christening
15 November 1635

Parents
Male
Thomas Blackham
??
Female
Eleanor Heath

??

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Mar 2020 14:35

Sorry, but I can't see how that proves that he was the father of the child born 1665, which is what I asked

Any thoughts on the info about the 1716 death?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Mar 2020 14:48

Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
21 Aug 1692
Event Place:
West Bromwich All Saints, Staffordshire, England
Event Place (Original):
All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Name:
Joseph Blackam
Gender:
Male
Spouse's Name:
Alice Hipkis
Spouse's Gender:
Female

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Mar 2020 16:10

You say that Joseph and his son Joseph (1665) both died in 1716.

Where did you find these records, please?

Maddie

Maddie Report 22 Mar 2020 16:43

the son

Joseph
Last name Blackman
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1665
Baptism date 04 Nov 1665
Residence Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Place Wolverhampton
County Staffordshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's last name Blackman
Mother's first name(s) -

Ellen

Ellen Report 23 Mar 2020 02:32


Joseph Blackham II
Sex • 2 Sources • Edit
Edit Sex
Male
Birth • 0 Sources • Edit
Edit Birth
1665
West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Christening

Add
Death • 0 Sources • Edit
Edit Death
1716
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Mar 2020 08:01

Ellen -

unfortunately, these "records" you are posting are just from other people's trees, and not necessarily correct.
Many people just copy from each others trees without checking independently.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Mar 2020 08:51

Ellen

Please READ CAREFULLY the info posted by Maddie at 10.46 yesterday.

Her info appears to be taken from online RECORDS - not from someone’s (probably inaccurate) tree




Ellen

Ellen Report 23 Mar 2020 11:25

I did my tree years ago I am sorry to say I do not remember where I got this information from, possibly Family Search ? I have emailed a person who has Joseph born 1665 & died 1716 ( as my message above ) to ask where he got this information from will let you know if he returns my message Cheers Ellen

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Mar 2020 11:45

I think you'll find it's guesswork by someone who has a so-called 'tree' on Ancestry.

They don't even have the right wife for the man born 1665

Maddie's info CLEARLY shows the FATHER of the one born 1713 and died 1716 as RICHARD

Also, the birth and burial were in WOLVERHAMPTON - NOT West Bromwich

That's why I asked that you read it carefully.

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Mar 2020 12:33

the info came from a submitted tree on family search

Joseph Blackham II
View Tree
Sex
Male

Birth
1665
West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Death
1716
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Sources
1
s1
Burial
28 April 1716
St. Peter, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Sources
1
s1

PARENTS
Father
Joseph Blackham

MARRIAGES (1)
Spouse
Alice Hipkiss

Marriage
21 August 1692
West Bromwich, Staffordshire, , England
Sources
1
s2

SOURCES (3)
Ancestry.com, England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014). Ancestry.com :
Ancestry.com, England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014). Ancestry.com :
Ancestry.com, England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014). Ancestry.com :
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Ellen

Ellen Report 25 Mar 2020 15:51

Yes Maddie is correct Joseph Blackham born 1713 died 1716 was the son of Richard Blackham 1686 I do not know who his mother was

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 Mar 2020 16:20

IF this is josephs brother shows mother name

Robert
Last name Blackham
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1638
Baptism date 18 Nov 1638
Place West Bromwich
County Staffordshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Blackham
Mother's first name(s) Elonar ----------------

other siblings

Eunice
Last name Blackham
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1640
Baptism date 08 Nov 1640
Place West Bromwich
County Staffordshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Blackham
Mother's first name(s) Ellonar

Sarah
Last name Blackham
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1642
Baptism date 25 Sep 1642
Place West Bromwich
County Staffordshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Blackham
Mother's first name(s) Ellonar

Thomas
Last name Blackham
Name note -
Marriage year 1633
Marriage date 23 Jul 1633
Marriage place West Bromwich
Spouse's first name(s) Elnor
Spouse's last name Heath
County Staffordshire
Country England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Mar 2020 17:04

So the 1716 death isn't EITHER of 'your' Josephs

Ellen

Ellen Report 26 Mar 2020 01:01

Sorry to say no he is not the Joseph I am looking for I have his father as Richard but no mother either
I am looking for a marriage of Joseph Blackham born 1635 Bapt 15/11/1635 son of Thomas Blackham & Elinor Heath Thanks