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Hi
I will look and see if there is a death for Eliza Pinney
1909
But the trouble is it won’t let me print any of the Articles off So I have E-mailed Genes Reunited Team , to find out the reason why I have Credits to do this
Bye for now
Olive

The death is on page 4 of this thread, as advised

Hi
Yes I have seen Eliza Pinney on page 4

What I meant maybe Eliza Pinney death 1909, would be stated in one of the Luton Papers
As Arthur Pinney is mentioned giving his Death date 1915 also his age and where he was living
Thankyou
Olive

As far as I remember, I don't think printing the newspaper articles is possible in any case.
And there doesn't seem to be anything in the papers about Eliza's death.

If you want someone else to look up any articles for you, see this kind offer from MistyCat:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1383636

Thankyou for your reply
That is really kind of Misty Cat to offer
From Olive

When the current situation changes, contact the relevant local paper and ask if they have an archivist

Thankyou for your reply
You are all so kind to me
Ancestry .co.uk have free access this weekend
I have been able to open 1939 Register up and quite a few other things up to now
From Olive

Hi Everyone Hope you all keeping safe
I have been busy putting my information together ,which I acsses off the Free Ancestry .co .uk last weekend .It was really interesting
Finding the Pinney Family information,even Electroles
I wonder if someone would look for a record of
Alfred Dear born 1877/ 1880 Luton Bedfordshire
He served in the Royal Air Force Service Number 145457 WW1 please

He married Maud Esther Pinney 1907 Luton Bedfordshire

The reason I’m asking that I printed it off ,it’s so small I carnt read what it says !!!
Thankyou
Olive

The full record isn't available on Ancestry, unless you also have an extra sub to Fold3.


This is all that's on Ancestry:

Alfred Dear
in the UK, Royal Air Force Airmen Records, 1918-1940
View Original Image on Fold3.
Name: Alfred Dear
Gender: Male
Age: 39
Birth Date: 1877
Service Date: 12 Jul 1916
Service Number: 145457
Spouse: Maud Hester Dear
Next of Kin: Maud Hester Dear
Relation to Airman: Wife


The sample page shown beside the record on Ancestry isn't part of Alfred's record. It's just a generic page to show what an army record page could look like.

Thankyou so much

That’s just what I needed
I couldn’t read it as the print was too small My fault when printing it off

I realised that the other page wasn’t Alfreds

It’s been an interesting journey,putting it together with help of Genes Renited
Wilfred Pinney 1894 Luton Bedfordshire is my friends Father ,

So next is is my friends Wife side still Luton Bedfordshire though
But have made a start already
Thankyou
Olive

From fmp.

British Royal Air Force, Airmen's Service Records 1912-1939

First name(s) Alfred
Last name Dear
Birth year 1877
Birth date ? ? 1877
Occupation Jobber
Attestation year 1916
Attestation date 12 Jul 1916
Attestation age 39
Service number 145457
Marriage year 1907
Marriage date 25 Nov 1907
Spouse's first name(s) Maud Hesler
Child's first name(s) Dorothy
Child's birth date 26 Aug 1908
Child 2 first name(s) Maud Ellis
Child 2 birth date 30 Sep 1909
Child 3 first name(s) Kathleen
Child 3 birth date 30 Sep 1914
Archive reference AIR 79/1314
Next of kin first name(s) Maud Hesler,Dorothy,Maud Ellis,Kathleen
Next of kin last name Dear
Record set British Royal Air Force, Airmen's Service Records 1912-1939
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

Thankyou
Once agian
Olive

You're very welcome Olive. Let us know if you need any more help.

That’s really kind of you

From Olive

Image of RAF records shows that Alfred was initially in the Army - the Bedfordshire Regiment - having joined 12.7.1916 for the duration of the War. He transferred to the Royal Flying Corps 9.1.1918 and then into the newly formed RAF

RAF came into being 1 April 1918 when RFC and the RNAS (Royal Naval Air Service) amalgamated and the RAF became a separate military service with it's own ministry alongside the RN and Army.

He was married in Luton.

NOK was his wife Maud Hester Dear of 6 Bailey ---- Cot. Luton

Transferred to RAF Reserve 8.2.19 and deemed discharged 30.4.20

There's a list of where he was posted - but all in RAF "speak" so no help there !

Awarded 14 days detention in July 1918 by Officer Commanding 6th Wing for helping himself to public goods i.e. cutlery

Wow and Thankyou
Its amazing what you all find out
When I access The free Ancestry co uk last weekend
It must have been the basic on The Pinney Family
Army services WW1

But it was great finding things out
Thankyou all so much
Olive

The detailed RAF record for Alfred , which Greyghost and Alviegal posted, isn't on Ancestry (apart from the one I posted, which also needed a Fold3 sub) - which is why you couldn't find it.

Thankyou
Was it on Find My Past ?

Would that Webb Site Have the other brothers on there in detail

Thankyou everyone
Olive

The RAF was founded on 1 April 1918 by merging the Royal Flying Corps and the Royal Naval Air Service.

If a member of the army transferred to the RFC (or later, the RAF), then their army service record went along with them to their new service (sim for the RN to the RNAS/RAF), and their entire service record is in with the RAF records.
If they continued in service long after WW1, then their records are treated like modern records, and need a special individual request for access.

Ancestry has what remains of the Army WW1 service records[*], as well as the Army pension records and medal card rolls.

I don't know who holds what records - try Ancestry's Card Catalog
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/catalog/?limitToCountry=0

or FMP's A-Z of recod sets
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/historical-records


[*] Canadian and ANZAC records are complete and held by them, but their transfers yo RAF are held by RAF, which is not negligible - over 25% of WW1 RAF were Canadians.

Thankyou for your reply
Once our local Library is open again ,I will look on Ancestry Co.Uk as I’m not a member

At the moment I am putting together information I have
At the moment I am trying to sort out
Arthur Pinney born 1885 ish Luton Beds
He married Beatrice Harriett Squirrell born 1889/1890 but could be Suffolk
They married 1912 Luton Bedfordshire
I have 1939 Register and a few Electroles of Luton
Havnt much information on his Army WW1 life though

Thankyou agian
Olive