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Pamela

Pamela Report 29 Apr 2020 14:08

Please can anyone help with finding the Parents of William James Thompson born 1842 Downpatrick Northern Ireland, He married Mary Ann Ellis in Victoria Australia in 1876. I have all the information after his marriage but nothing about who his parents were or if he had any siblings. Thank you Pam

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2020 14:09

Didn't he name his father on his marriage cert?

Where did you get the info about his birthplace?

Where have you looked to try to find baptism info?

Pamela

Pamela Report 29 Apr 2020 14:17

I cant get his marriage certificate from Australia.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2020 14:20

When did he die?

I see Mary died young

Name: Mary Ann Thompson
Birth Year: abt 1855
Age: 28
Death Place: R Mond, Victoria
Father's name: Ellis
Registration Year: 1883
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 2945

Pamela

Pamela Report 29 Apr 2020 14:26

Yes that's right, Mary Ann Thompson (Ellis) died in 1883 in Australia.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2020 14:45

When did William die?

You haven't said how you know when and where he was born.............................

or where you've looked for baptism info...............................

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Apr 2020 15:05

??????
Name: William Thompson
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 20 Aug 1843
Baptism Place: Downpatrick, Down, Ireland
Father: William Thompson
Mother: Emily Barbara Mateer
FHL Film Number: 823636


Charles Wilson Thompson
Event Type
Christening
Event Date
19 Mar 1840
Event Place
Downpatrick, County Down, Ireland
Event Place (Original)
Downpatrick, Down, Ireland
Gender
Male
Father's Name
William Thompson
Mother's Name
Emily Barbara

Pamela

Pamela Report 29 Apr 2020 15:09

William died in 1929 Queenscliff Victoria Australia. A relative has some small amount of information passed down to her, but nothing about the birth parents of William .

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2020 15:10

I looked at that baptism but discounted it due to the lack of a second forename

If Pam answers my questions, we may be able to make some progress

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Apr 2020 15:18

the 1929 death spouse harriett but they married 1871

Name: William James Thompson
Gender: M (Male)
Birth Date: 1842
Death Date: 15 May 1929
Cemetery: Queenscliff Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Point Lonsdale, Greater Geelong City, Victoria, Australia
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Harriet Thompson
Children: Edith Alberta Thompson
Amy Olive Mabel Thompson
URL: https://www.findagrave.com

Name: Harriett Phipps
Spouse Name: William James Thompson
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1871
Registration Number: 1271

daughter
Name: Edith Alberta Thompson
Gender: F (Female)
Birth Date: 1872
Death Date: 29 Aug 1893
Cemetery: Queenscliff Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Point Lonsdale, Greater Geelong City, Victoria, Australia
Has Bio?: N
Father: William James Thompson
Mother: Harriet Thompson
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...

Name: Harriet Thompson
Gender: F (Female)
Birth Date: 1855
Death Date: 3 Nov 1930
Death Place: Queenscliff, Queenscliffe Borough, Victoria, Australia
Cemetery: Queenscliff Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Point Lonsdale, Greater Geelong City, Victoria, Australia
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: William James Thompson
Children: Edith Alberta Thompson
Amy Olive Mabel Thompson
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2020 15:24

That's why I asked when he died!

I'd found that death, with the info about a spouse named Harriet.

If the man who married Ellis was born 1842, she was 13 years his junior.

So - which - if any - of these people are you actually certain is related to you?



Pamela

Pamela Report 29 Apr 2020 15:51

William James Thompson married Mary Ann Ellis 1855-1883 in 1876 in Victoria Australia They had a Daughter Catherine Alice Thompson born 1878 Richmond Victoria Australia.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2020 17:36

That still doesn’t tell us anything about where and when he was born

What is the source of your info about that? Do you have any documentary evidence?

The man who died in 1929 does not appear to be the one who married Mary Ellis, unless there were two men of the name born in the same year

Pamela

Pamela Report 29 Apr 2020 19:10

On Find My Past the marriage for William James Thompson and Mary Ann Ellis is given as 1876 Victoria Australia, in the Victoria Marriages 1836-1942 Registration number 679

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2020 19:17

Yes, we’ve seen that, so no need to keep mentioning it

You’re not answering the questions about how you have arrived at the idea that the man who married in 1876 was born in 1842 in Ireland

All info about the 1929 Death is for a man whose wife was HARRIET.

It is posted above.

Pamela

Pamela Report 29 Apr 2020 19:29

From a relative of William and Mary

Pamela

Pamela Report 29 Apr 2020 19:38

There is a lot of mystery surrounding the Thompson Ellis family that's what I am trying to unravel . Thank you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2020 20:33

I’ll leave you to it, Pam.

Hope you get somewhere

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Apr 2020 12:55

I know I said I'd leave this, but.......................

Name: Agnes Thompson
Birth Date: Abt 1876
Birth Place: CA Rl, Victoria
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: William James Thompson
Mother: Mary Anne Ellis

Name: William Hugh Thompson
Birth Date: Abt 1881
Birth Place: Richmond, Victoria
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: William James Thompson
Mother: Mary Ellis
Registration Number: 4985

Definitely gone now..........................

Pamela

Pamela Report 4 May 2020 12:20

I found a possible death record on Find My Past for an Agnes Thompson 1876-1879 Warncourt (Warncoot) ? Cemetery register and headstones Victoria Australia I am signed up to Find a Grave and billion graves but couldn't pick up anything. I have not fond any evidence of Agnes after her birth in 1876 and wondered if she died as a child. Her Mother being Catherine Ellis who died in 1883. Apologies if I am asking too much but being in lockdown in UK is hard going when you are nearly 70. Thank you Pam