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Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 13:59

Good Afternoon

I wonder if someone could help me find the AUDAS family.

This is the information I have so far.

JOHN AUDAS BIRTH

Apr 1842 • Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire East Riding
AUDAS, JOHN Mothers Maiden Name - FRENCH
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter
KINGSTON UPON HULL Volume 22 Page 412

JOHN AUDAS MARRIAGE

31 Mar 1862 • St Mary the Virgin, St Helens, Lancashire, England
John Andas - 20, Collier, Bachelor, Whiston
Ellen Parkinson - (X), 24, Spinster, Whiston
Groom's Father: George Andas, Comedian
Witness: John Jennings, (X); Alice Cartwright, (X) Married by Banns by: F. L. Cursham :

JOHNS PARENTS MARRIAGE

Marriage
1840 • Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England
Marriages Jun 1840 AUDAS George
FRENCH Emma
Sculcoates Yorkshire
Vol 22 Page 370

I have John on census from 1871 - 1901

But I cant find him and his parents George and Emma on the 1851/1861 census.

I know nothing about his parents other than what is on his birth and marriage record

Any help finding them on the census prior to 1871 would be a great help

Thank You

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 14:46

First name(s) George
Spouse's father's first name(s) Robert
Last name Audas
Spouse's father's last name French
Age of Full Age
County Yorkshire (East Riding)
Residence Old Dock Side
Country England
Marriage year 1840
Archive East Riding Archives & Local Studies Service
Marriage date 18 May 1840
Archive reference E-PE120-19
Marriage place Sutton on Hull
Event type Marriages
Spouse's first name(s) Emma
Event year range 1837-1847
Spouse's last name French
Page 76
Spouse's age Minor
Record set Yorkshire Marriages
Spouse's residence Finkle Street
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) John
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Father's last name Audas
Collections from England, Great Britain

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Apr 2023 14:57

The marriage certificate of George and Emma’s marriage would give you their fathers names and occupations.

As you already know this surname is transcribed various ways which add to your difficulty.

If George is a comedian then it is worth scouring the local papers for reports of his performances which might add to your knowledge.

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 15:10

thank you nameslessone.

George's father was JOHN AUDAS
and Emmas father was ROBERT FRENCH

see above parish record

it also states george's occupation at the time of his marriage was Engineer

I've looked online for george in newspapers in Yorkshire but no luck

Thank you

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Apr 2023 15:21

The parish records don’t give the occupations of the two fathers.

Have you found Robert French and John, the elder Audas on any census, which should indicate if they are local or their deaths.

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Apr 2023 15:24

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Paradise Place, Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
View original record
Household members (7 people)
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Harriet Hall Female 29 1812 -
Mary Hall Female 6 1835 Yorkshire, England
William Hall Male 4 1837 Yorkshire, England
George Audas Male 19 1822 Yorkshire, England
Emma Audas Female 19 1822 Yorkshire, England

an engineer

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 15:26

just found this on the 1841 census. I have spent ages looking for it .
He is with his wife Emma

First name(s) George
Last name Audas
Sex Male
Age 19
Birth year 1822
Birth county Yorkshire
Birth county as transcribed YORKSHIRE
Birth place other England
Occupation -
Full address Paradise Place, Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
Street Paradise Place
Parish or township Holy Trinity
City or borough Kingston upon Hull
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (East Riding)
Country England
Registration district Kingston upon Hull
Sub district Myton
Family member first name(s) William, Emma, Charlotte, Mary, Harriet
Family member last name Hall, Audas, Stephenson
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1231
Book number 5
Folio number 6
Page number 4
Schedule 1710
Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain, England

Here is a list of other occupants

Harriet Hall Female 29 1812 -
Mary Hall Female 6 1835 Yorkshire, England
William Hall Male 4 1837 Yorkshire, England
George Audas Male 19 1822 Yorkshire, England
Emma Audas Female 19 1822 Yorkshire, England
Charlotte Stephenson Female 25 1816 Yorkshire, England
Mary Stephenson Female 22 1819 Yorkshire, England

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 15:42

Maddie I think we found that at the same time. I have spent ages looking for it Thank You

looking for 1851 now as they will have at least one child John born 1842

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2023 16:00

John Audas was a Shoemaker (deceased) when his son George married in 1840
Emma’s father, Robert, was a Joiner

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 16:02

thank you ErikaH
so no use looking for John Audas senior on any census .

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2023 16:04

John ANDERS is in Parr in 1861…….with family named Cartwright

Labourer in a Coal Mine, born Hull 1842

Transcribed by FMP as married - not accurate. Correction submitted

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 16:09

ErikaH
thats great.
thank you.
He married in St Helens in 1861

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2023 16:10

I searched for ‘John’ in ‘Whiston’………. ;-) ;-)

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 16:13

ErikaH

You are amazing

Thank You

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Apr 2023 16:16

????
George Chalmers
Country England
Last name Audas
Archive Borthwick Institute for Archives
Birth year 1822
Record type Bishop's transcripts
Birth date 05 Jun 1822
Register type Baptisms
Baptism year 1822
Register year range 1818-1825
Baptism date 19 Dec 1822
Page 329
Father's first name(s) John
Record set Yorkshire Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Baptism place Hull, Holy Trinity
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
County Yorkshire (East Riding)

John
Country England
Last name Audas
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Name note -
Spouse's last name Credland
Marriage year 1821
Spouse's age -
Marriage date 08 Oct 1821
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Residence Sculcoates, York, England
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Marriage place Sculcoates
Subcategory Parish Marriages
County Yorkshire

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 17:22

Maddie this is brilliant. Thank you so very much. I really appreciate everyones time and effort

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2023 17:54

There is a death on freebmd for John Audas in Hull in 1838…….check GRO for his age

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2023 17:59

John Audas, Cordwainer, married Elizabeth Booth 06/02/1797 at Holy Trinity, Hull

Speculating that these could possibly be George’s grandparents, in view of the Groom’s occupation

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 21:10

ErikaH thank you so much for your help.
I wonder if George did become a comedian ?
It's the 1st time I've come across that occupation

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Apr 2023 22:32

The death suggested by ErikaH:

AUDAS, JOHN 62
GRO Reference: 1838 M Quarter in KINGSTON UPON HULL Volume 22 Page 185


John Audas
in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name John Audas
Gender Male
Death Age 62
Birth Date 1776
Death Date abt 1838
Burial Date 1 Apr 1838
Burial Place St. James'S Church, Parish of Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull
FHL Film Number 1657088
Reference ID VS it4 p17 cn130