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As previously advised……….the GRO gives age at death. That’s the source of all the records I posted at 15:16!!

Oh doh, siily me. Sorry for that, need to go to specsavers!

That's the one in your opening post -
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro - gives ages at death and the chance to check for similar sounding variations and phonetically similar variations

Name: Age at Death (in years):
PROPHETT, GEORGE 4
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in NANTWICH Volume 08A Page 193

I have found this one on Free BMD and its not in your list ErikaH

George Proppett d 1859 8a pg 193 Q4. Nantwich

Also listed as George Prophett same details probably a correction to spelling.

Are you able to look for this elsewhere where it may give an age?

I'm sure the answer is in the spelling of his surname and there are so many variations, although there are not many deaths even using different spellings.

Purely for INFO...........this is the one with parents John and Ann (Nancy)

Profitt Or Prophet
George
1816
1816
Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Baptisms 1538-1911
Lower Peover

Profitt Or Prophet
George
1816
May 1816
Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Bishop's Transcripts Burials 1576-1906
Cheshire, England

None of these.....posting for elimination

PROPHETT, GEORGE 0
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in CONGLETON Volume 08A Page 198
PROPHETT, GEORGE 30
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in CONGLETON Volume 08A Page 202
PROFIT, GEORGE 37
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in MACCLESFIELD Volume 08A Page 72
PROFFIT, GEORGE 69
GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in NORTHWICH Volume 08A Page 177
PROFFITT, GEORGE 24
GRO Reference: 1865 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 271
PROFFITT, GEORGE 1
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in STOKE-UPON-TRENT Volume 06B Page 91
PROFFIT, GEORGE 25
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in HOLYWELL Volume 11B Page 191
PROFFITT, GEORGE 56
GRO Reference: 1854 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 322


George stated that he was 24 when he married on 15th Feb 1841. One of the witnesses was a James Prophett
Mary claimed to be 20

Re-posting the baptism dates of the siblings you mention - for ease of reference:

Siblings of George 1816:

Sarah Prophet 1813
Thomas Proffit 1821
John Profitt 1799

All baptised in Sandbach, children of George and Elizabeth of Betchton.

There may have been miscarriages or stillbirths between John and Sarah, of which there won't be any record.

Good afternoon all.

Well the 2 certs arrived today. The death cert was not the correct George Profit as his occupation was a railway worker who died when he was crushed between 2 coaches on the railway....how awful.

However the marriage cert between George & Maryann is correct. It gives his occupation as a boatman and his father is also George as some of you correctly stated.

With this extra info you all found re siblings, I can now rewrite that branch of the tree but still don't know when George died?

What I have just realised also is there is a gap of 14 years between John & Sarah so there could have been other siblings I guess?

My own findings were completely wrong as I had John Proffitt and Anne Bane as Georges parents and now as it was ages ago cannot find how I arrived at that info.??
So big thankyou to all of you who helped with this for me.

Really appreciated

Florence in the hebrides

Yes I noticed these children were born before she married again!
She didn't waste much time did she probably needed a sugar daddy to care for all her other "Prophet" children and to keep him happy, had a few more ;-) ;-)

PROPHET, FREDERICK DOWNIE -
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 40

DOWNIE, MARGARET LAMMIMAN
GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 35

DOWNIE, HENRY LAMMIMAN
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 40

Ty ErikaH

?????????????????
First name(s) Mary
County Lincolnshire
Last name Lamiman
Country England
Sex Female
Archive Lincolnshire Archives
Baptism year 1819
Page 3
Baptism date 21 Nov 1819
Record set Lincolnshire Baptisms
Father's first name(s) John...................................Occ: Labourer
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Place Markby

Look closely at the marriage record I posted, and remember, also, that in those days people didn't always know exactly when they were born

They did also lie, of course - especially women with younger husbands ;-) ;-)

Oh ty for finding this extra info especially the siblings, that's fantastic info.

Just wondering about Mary Ann's age as on the 1851 census she says she was 24 so born in 1827???? but maybe she also lied?

Betty's death:

PROPHETT, ELIZABETH 78
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in CONGLETON Volume 08A Page 211

Siblings of George 1816:

Sarah Prophet 1813
Thomas Proffit 1821
John Profitt 1799

All baptised in Sandbach, children of George and Elizabeth of Betchton.



George and Betty's marriage ??

George Proffett
England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000
Name George Proffett
Sex Male
Event Type Intended Marriage
Event Date 20 Jan 1798
Event Place , Sandbach, Cheshire, England
Marriage Date 20 Jan 1798
Spouse's Name Betty Siddall
Spouse's Sex Female
Note Details From List Of Banns
License Type Banns
Image Number 591

His father's death ???

PROPHETT, GEORGE 67
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in CONGLETON Volume 19 Page 68

George's parents in 1841 ??

George Proffitt
in the 1841 England Census
Name George Proffitt
Age 65
Estimated Birth Year abt 1776
Gender Male
Where born Cheshire, England
Civil parish Sandbach
Hundred Nantwich
County/Island Cheshire
Country England
Registration district Congleton
Sub-registration district Sandbach
Neighbors
Piece 118
Book 2
Folio 8
Page number 9
Household Members (Name) Age
George Proffitt 65, labourer
Betty Proffitt 60
Elizabeth Proffitt 6

As George is said to be 24 in 1841, that would mean he was born c1817.

If he was born in 1822 (per the 1859 death record, IF that's accurate), he would only have been 19 when he married Mary.

But maybe he lied!



Just a suggestion:

George Prophet
in the Cheshire, England, Select Bishop's Transcripts, 1576-1933
Name George Prophet
Gender Male
Baptism Date 28 Apr 1816
Baptism Place Sandbach, Cheshire, England
Father George Prophet
Mother Elizabeth
FHL Film Number 1751911

His marriage record says his father was George, and he was "of Betteton", which I take to mean Betchton.
Betchton is only a couple of miles from Sandbach.



EDIT:
Oops - sorry, ErikaH. I didn't notice you'd already posted that.

George’s mother’s name was Elizabeth - as per the man’s baptism record which I posted. Betty is the common diminutive thereof.

George was a BOATMAN - he could have been anywhere

As you can see, Mary was ‘married’ when 1851 census was taken