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Edna Simpson
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name Edna Simpson
Gender Female
Baptism Date 17 Sep 1832
Baptism Place Hanley,Stafford,England
Father Richard Simpson
Mother Sarah
FHL Film Number 417197, 426560, 426561


Richard Simpson
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973
Name Richard Simpson
Gender Male
Marriage Date 13 Nov 1831
Marriage Place Hanley,Stafford,England
Spouse Sarah Boden
FHL Film Number 426560, 426561

Hi,

Thanks this has helped me so much, I was looking on Ancestry throw her husband on the hints.

FMP l will have a look.

thanks again

Amanda

Hi,

Thanks this has helped me so much, I was looking on Ancestry throw her husband on the hints.

FMP l will have a look.

thanks again

Amanda

Hi,

just want to say thank you so much for the help. I have know found Sarah Simpson mother and Father.

So Sarah dad William and mother were cousin ? with both having the same surname.

You need to check carefully before assuming any relationship between Sarah’s parents…..Simpson is a very common name.

Further thoughts about Edna Simpson's father Richard.-

Sarah Boden appears to be his first wife, and mother of Edna. (1831 marriage record, and Edna's christening, in my last post).

In 1841 there's no wife listed with Richard, and in 1851 and later, his wife is Lydia.

Richard's second marriage:

Richard Simpson
in the Staffordshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1900
Name Richard Simpson
Marriage Age Full Age
Record Type Marriage
Residence Place Fenton
Marriage Date 17 Nov 1850
Marriage Place Stoke on Trent, St Peter ad Vincula, Staffordshire, England
Father Jonathan Simpson
Spouse Lydia Taylor [ father - James Allen ]
Religion Anglican
Page number 81

Births of Edna's siblings (with mother Sarah):

SIMPSON, ROSANNA mmn BODEN
GRO Reference: 1842 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 17 Page 141

SIMPSON, ELIZA mmn BODEN
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 17 Page 145

SIMPSON, LOUISA mmn BODEN
GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 17 Page 139

SIMPSON, LAVINIA mmn BODEN
GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in OF THE LEEK UNION Volume 17 Page 55

SIMPSON, JONATHAN mmn BODEN
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 17 Page 161

Lavinia's death:

SIMPSON, LAVINIA 6
GRO Reference: 1843 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 17 Page 104

Half-siblings (Lydia's children):

SIMPSON, HANNAH mmn ALLEN
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 17 Page 152

SIMPSON, ELLEN mmn ALLEN
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 186

SIMPSON, ARTHUR mmn ALLEN
GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 187

SIMPSON, JAMES mmn ALLEN
GRO Reference: 1864 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 215


But one has mmn given as Taylor (Lydia's presumably previous married surname):

SIMPSON, SARAH mmn TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 161


But the name Platt appears, too, for some reason:

SIMPSON, ANNIE ELIZA mmn PLATT
GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 176


Ellen Platt Simpson
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name Ellen Platt Simpson
Gender Female
Baptism Date 5 Aug 1855
Baptism Place Fenton, Stafford, England
Father Richard Simpson
Mother Lydia
FHL Film Number 1470947

Lydia Allen
in the Staffordshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1900
Name Lydia Allen
Marriage Age Full age
Record Type Marriage
Residence Place Knutton Heath
Marriage Date 6 Nov 1843
Marriage Place Wolstanton, St Margaret, Staffordshire, England
Father James Allen
Spouse George Taylor
Religion Anglican
Page number 75

Morning everyone,

Hope you are all ok ?

Would there be any way of finding out if Edith May Colclough 1912 married at all ?

thanks

Amanda

For England and Wales look it up on www.freebmd.org.uk

I should leave you to look it up for yourself, to give you practice, Amanda - and in fact, please do look it up for that reason. It's also much more satisfying to find answers yourself!

However -

Middle names aren't given in full in the search results for some years on FreeBMD.

Two possible marriages:

Marriages Sep 1937 (>99%)
COLCLOUGH Edith M Gratton Stoke 6b 627
GRATTON Thomas Colclough Stoke 6b 627

Marriages Sep 1955 (>99%)
COLCLOUGH Edith M DREW Stoke 9b 1523
DREW Colin COLCLOUGH Stoke 9b 1523


It looks as if the 1937 marriage may be the correct one:

Deaths Jun 1980 (>99%)
GRATTON EDITH MAY 14AU1912 STOKE/T 30 1649

Do you know Edith's exact DOB?

Good advice AG. I always think that one should track others findings. You now know it is there and finding it helps you learn to navigate the sites.

1939 Register
328 London Road, Stoke-On-Trent, Stoke-On-Trent C.B., Staffordshire, England
Thomas Gratton 07 Dec 1901 Male General Labourer (Steel Rolling Mill) Married 23 1
Edith M Gratton 14 Aug 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 23 2

Now look YOURSELF for children of the marriage.......................

The woman who married Drew was born 1921...maiden name Barlow

Paper trail to prove not relevant to this enquiry........easy to find

Marriages Sep 1942 (>99%)
Barlow Edith M Colclough Stoke 6b 316
Colclough Frederick Barlow Stoke 6b 316

Marriages Dec 1960 (>99%)
Drew Edith M Muller Stoke 9b 1261
MULLER Adam DREW Stoke 9b 1261

Name Edith M Muller
Maiden Name Barlow
Gender Female
Record Type Death
Death Date 21 Feb 1997
Death Place Staffordshire, England

Name Edith May Muller
Death Age 75
Birth Date 8 Jun 1921
Registration Date Feb 1997
Registration District Stafford
Inferred County Staffordshire
Register Number S52D
District and Subdistrict 7352
Entry Number 21

Hi,

Thank you for the information, I ask for help because l am not as good as some people are at genealogy.

So Edith married a Thomas Gratton born 1901

I did a search on Staffordshire BMD and found the following.

Graham Thomas 1943 in District of stoke
Lillian 1943 in the district of Burslem

there was also another child John Anthony 1955

am l on the right track and why would there be 2 different districts.

thanks

Amanda

Same general area….check on any map………..people move house

I’ve nudged up your Johnson thread……..please look at it and add a response

Hi,

I cant find a birth record for Thomas Gratton born 1901 can anyone help me with this please.

thanks

Amanda

Look at the date of birth.............then remember that parents had 6 weeks to register the birth........

Get copy marriage cert for name of his father - if he knew him

Don't assume he was born in Stafforshire..............be open-minded

He may also not have known when he was actually born.........the marriage cert is by far the most useful and sensible option

County borders can also change. When using FreeBMD enter a range of at least a year either side of the one you think it is- you can also click on the district names to find the places that district covered.