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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2025 13:23

KNOX, BERTIE BROOMFIELD
GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 213

Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
Broomfield Eleanor Garnet Stoke T. 6b 360
KNOX Leonard Stoke T. 6b 360

1921 Census Of England & Wales
103, Birks Street, Stoke-On-Trent, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Leonard Knox Head Male 1869 52 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Potters Placer, Basket Maker Bennetts Work Shops For Bling
Leonard Knox Son Male 1894 26 Staffordshire, England - -
Earnest Knox Son Male 1902 18 Stoke, Staffordshire, England Miner Loader Duke Pits
Berty Knox Son Male 1906 15 Stoke, Staffordshire, England - -


1911 Census For England & Wales
103 Birks St Stoke - on - Trent, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Leonard Knox Head Married Male 44 1867 Potters placer china Staff Hanley
Elenor Knox Wife Married Female 41 1870 Potters handler Cheser Alsager
Ellen Knox Daughter Single Female 19 1892 Potters transferer Staff Hanley
Leonard Knox Son - Male 16 1895 Basket maker Derbyshre Church Gresley
Percy Knox Son - Male 9 1902 School Staff Stoke
Ernest Knox Son - Male 8 1903 School Staff Stoke
Berty Knox Son - Male 5 1906 - Staff Stoke
Girly Knox Daughter - Female 14 1897 Glost warehouse girl Derbyshire Church Gresley

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
70, New Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Leonard Knox Head Married Male 33 1868 Potters placer Staffordshire, England
Eleanor Knox Wife Married Female 33 1868 Potter?s cup handler Alsager, Cheshire, England
Emma Knox Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Potter?s mould runner Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Annie Knox Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Nellie Knox Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Lawrence L Knox Son - Male 7 1894 - Swadlincote, Derbyshire, England
Leonard Knox Son - Male 6 1895 - Swadlincote, Derbyshire, England
Gertrude Knox Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Swadlincote, Derbyshire, England


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
80, Abbey Road, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Ebenezer G Knox Head Widower Male 45 1836 Engine fitter at works Barnard Castle, Durham, England
Annie E Knox Daughter Single Female 19 1862 Housekeeper dom Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Thomas T Knox Son Single Male 17 1864 Potter Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Leonard Knox Son Single Male 14 1867 Potters packer Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Robert C Knox Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Emma Knox Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Nehemiah Knox Son Single Male 3 1878 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Elijah Billington Servant Widower Male 56 1825 General labourer unemployed Hanley, Staffordshire, England
George Knox Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Wilson Street, Shelton, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Ebenezer Knox Head - Male 35 1836 Engine fitter Barnard Castle, Durham, England
Emma Knox Wife - Female 33 1838 - B?Cknall, Staffordshire, England
Annie E Knox Daughter - Female 9 1862 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Thomas T Knox Son - Male 7 1864 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Leonard Knox Son - Male 4 1867 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Robert C Knox Son - Male 3 1868 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England
George Knox Son - Male 1 1870 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England

KNOX, LEONARD BILLINGTON
GRO Reference: 1866 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 198

Marriages Mar 1857 (>99%)
Billington Emma Stoke on T 6b 254
Knox George Stoke on T. 6b 254

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Inglis Street, Shelton, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
John Knox Husband Married Male 25 1836 Engine fitter Barnard Castle, Durham, England
Emma Knox Wife Married Female 23 1838 - Stoke, Staffordshire, England
Walter Knox Son Unmarried Male 1 1860 - Stoke, Staffordshire, England

KNOX, WALTER FREDERICK BILLINGTON
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 187


Name George Knox
Marriage Age 21
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1836
Residence Place Copeland Strt
Marriage Date 19 Jan 1857
Marriage Place Shelton, St Mark, Staffordshire, England
Father George Knox
Spouse Emma Billington
Religion Anglican
Page number 222

Name Ebenezer George Knox
Gender Male
Baptism Date 13 Mar 1836
Baptism Place Parochial Chaperlry, Barnard-Castle, Durham, England
Father George Knox
Mother Ann
FHL Film Number 1894205
Reference ID item 1 p 137

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Botterlon Cottage, 2, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
George King Head Married Male 50 1801 Manager of coal miner Scotland
Ann King Wife Married Female 43 1808 His wife Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
John King Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Joiner apprentic Barnard Castle, Durham, England
George E King Son Unmarried Male 15 1836 Engine fitter apprentice Barnard Castle, Durham, England
Hannah King Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1841 Scholar Fenton, Staffordshire, England
Thomas T King Son Unmarried Male 6 1845 Scholar Fenton, Staffordshire, England
Ann Hume Servant Unmarried Female 20 1831 Domestic servant Fenton, Staffordshire, England

Surname corrections submitted to FMP. Ancestry have transcribed correctly as KNOX

KNOX, HANNAH THWAITES
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 17 Page 146
KNOX, THOMAS THWAITES THWAITES
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 17 Page 142

Name Thomas Thwaites Knox
Gender Male
Marital Status Single
Age 28
Birth Date 1843
Marriage Date 6 Jul 1871
Marriage Place Barnard-Castle, Durham, England
Father George Knox
Spouse Anne Eliza Butterfield
FHL Film Number 1894229
Reference ID #90 p46

Name Thomas Thwaites Knox
Gender Male
Baptism Date 10 Sep 1843
Baptism Place Fenton, Stafford, England
Father George Knox
Mother Ann
FHL Film Number 1470947
Reference ID item 14 p 47

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 20 Feb 2025 13:51

A DNA test should show Edith as she is a direct ancestor but not to Thomas as he assumed not to be.
So a DNA test would not be relevant to Thomas with Edith, but to say Thomas and Edith can be confusing if you are struggling to get one’s head around dna matched,

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2025 13:54

First name(s) George
Second witness Mary Willis
Last name Knox
County Durham
Occupation School master
Country England
Marital status Widower*******************************
Licence or banns Licence
Marriage year 1833
Archive Durham University Library
Marriage date 21 Sep 1833
Archive reference DDR/EA/PBT/2/17
Place Barnard Castle
Document type Bishop's Transcripts
Denomination Anglican
Register type Baptisms, marriages & burials
Residence Barnard Castle
Register year range 1833-1847
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Record set Durham Marriages
Spouse's last name Thwaites

Witnesses both with surname Willis

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Yew Tree, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
George Knox Male 40 1801 Scotland
Ann Knox Female 30 1811 -
John Knox Male 7 1834 -
Ebenezer Knox Male 5 1836 -
Hannah Knox Female 0 1841 Staffordshire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Feb 2025 16:11

Any progress on the marriage cert, Amanda?

Amanda

Amanda Report 25 Feb 2025 21:00

Hi,

I have orded Edith and Thomas Marriage cert. When it comes l will let you know

thanks

Amanda

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Feb 2025 21:05

Excellent………

Did you see the KNOX info?

Amanda

Amanda Report 26 Feb 2025 07:07

Hi,

Yes l did thank you....


amanda