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Started thread already got no further Frank Robert Grieve born 1900 ,went to new york in 1923 .then on to Quebec/ Montreal in 1960 census. Married to Lola Clark grieve ,Can anyone find out if he had children? Will be deceased now is there a death certificate somewhere.this was my father's dad who he never met ?
If someone from Montreal/ Canada could help be really grateful

Are you sure that he was born in Montreal? Most records say he was born in Scotland.
On this record he's with his wife Iola Clark Grieve:


Frank Grieve
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name:
Frank Grieve
Arrival Age:
53
Birth Date:
abt 1899
Port of Departure:
Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival date:
5 Sep 1952
Port of Arrival:
Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage:
Montreal
Ship Name:
Empress of France

If this is his arrival in Canada he says he was born St. Andrews, Scotland, lists his mother as Mary Ann Grieve, Kilrenny, Anstruther, Fife. Says he's going to join friend Mr. J. Currellay, Munro, Ontario.

Frank Grieve
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name:
Frank Grieve
Gender:
Male
Arrival Age:
30
Birth Year:
abt 1900
Birth Country:
Scotland
Departure Port:
Greenock, Scotland
Arrival date:
17 May 1930
Arrival Port:
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Vessel:
Duchess of Atholl

On this arrival 1923, New York, he also lists mother as Mrs. Mary Ann Grieve, Blue Stone House, Crail, Fife. Says he's going to join cousin John Brown, 319 E. 86th. St., New York.


Frank Robert Grieve
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name:
Frank Robert Grieve
Arrival date:
1 Nov 1923
Birth Date:
abt 1900
Birth Location:
Scotland
Birth Location Other:
st andrews
Age:
23
Gender:
Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality:
Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure:
Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival:
New York, New York
Ship Name:
Columbia

His grave with a picture that you can access.

Frank Robert
Last name Grieve
Birth year 1899
Birth date ? ? 1899
Death year 1977
Death date ? ? 1977
Cemetery Crown Cemetery Puslinch
City Puslinch
County Wellington
Province Ontario
Country Canada
Image link https://billiongraves.com/grave/Frank-Robert-Grieve/25620416
Record set Canada Billion Graves Cemetery Index

Could this be him in 1901?


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bielethane Farm House, North Lane, Cameron, Fife, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
David Grieve Head Married Male 34 1867 Cameron, Fife, Scotland Farmer
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Mary Ann Grieve Wife Married Female 31 1870 Kingsbarns, Fife, Scotland -
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David S Grieve Son Single Male 8 1893 St Andrews, Fife, Scotland Scholar
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>>Francis R Grieve Son Single Male 1 1900 Cameron, Fife, Scotland -
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Charlotte Duncan Servant Single Female 25 1876 Strathkinness, Fife, Scotland Servant Domestic


His birth from https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk


GRIEVE

FRANCIS ROBERT

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1899

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https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1367266

You already knew all this Helen :-S :-S

Darn it! I should know better, I even posted on that previous thread!

Hi thanks for information .yes born Scotland. Trying to find out if had any family ? First of me hearing when died 1977 in County Wellington thanks for that.if you found out anything else be really grateful Helen

Sorry the way I worded it was trying to see if someone in Canada could help grave says puslinch county Wellington.was quite emotional seeing the grave of what would have been my grandad .no mention of children on grave ? Ah

Maybe his wife( iola Clark Grieve ) had brothers or sisters ? And maybe they had children .to contact one would be amazing thanks

Iola's birth?


Iola Mclean Clark
in the Ontario, Canada Births, 1858-1913
Name:
Iola Mclean Clark
Date of Birth:
1 Oct 1908
Gender:
Female
Birth Place:
Wellington, Ontario, Canada
Father's name:
Duncan Robert Clark
Mother's name:
Margaret McClean

Looks like she had plenty of siblings:


Iola Moulton Clarke
in the 1911 Census of Canada
Name:
Iola Moulton Clarke
[Iola Moulton Clark]
[Iola McLean Clark]
Gender:
Female
Marital Status:
Single
Age:
2
Birth Date:
Oct 1908
Birth Place:
Ontario
Relation to Head of House:
Daughter
Mother's name:
Mary Clayes
Race or Tribe:
Scotch (Scotish)
Province:
Ontario
District:
Wellington South

Household Members:
Lurcan Robert Clarke 44
Margaret Jessie Clarke 36
Maday C Clarke 15
Maydell M Clarke 13
Annie S Clarke 11
Janet Clarke 9
Mary Helen Clarke 8
Emma Elisabeth Clarke 7
Maud Alice Clarke 5
Iola Moulton Clarke 2
Walles Hobbs 22
Lorrie Heffman 15

Thanks , for your help.most sisters / brothers of iola will be deceased try find their children .

I thought her middle name was maybe iola McKenzie clark.but maybe I'm wrong

"try find their children" ?



Maydell M in the 1911 census is actually Margaret M, and Lurcan is Duncan.

Margaret Mcpherson Clark
in the Ontario, Canada Births, 1858-1913
Name: Margaret Mcpherson Clark
Date of Birth: 14 Jun 1897
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Wellington, Ontario, Canada
Father's name: Duncan R Clark
Mother's name: Margaret J McLean


The family in 1921:

Duncan Clark
in the 1921 Census of Canada
Name: Duncan Clark
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 53
Birth Year: abt 1868
Birth Place: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Clark
Father Birth Place: Ontario
Mother Birth Place: Ontario
Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish)
Province or Territory: Ontario
District: Wellington South
District Number: 140
Sub-District: Puslinch (Township)
Sub-District Number: 16
City, Town or Village: Puslinch Twp
Street or Township: Puslind Twp
Occupation: Farmer
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Duncan Clark 53
Margaret Clark 46
Margarie Clark 25
Annie Clark 21
Janette Clark 20
Mary Clark 13
Emma Clark 17
Maud Clark 15
Jola Clark 12
Deanelda Clark 4


Duncan's death:

Duncan Robert Clark
in the Canada, Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Duncan Robert Clark
Birth Date: 16 Jan 1867
Birth Place: Guelph, Wellington County, Ontario, Canada
Death Date: 24 Dec 1945
Death Place: Ontario, Canada
Cemetery: Crown Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Morriston, Wellington County, Ontario, Canada
Has Bio?: N

These details added on the website - they're not mentioned on the gravestone, and I don't know how accurate they are. Haven't checked
:
Father: Donald Clark
Mother: Margaret McPherson
Spouse: Margaret Jessie Clark
Children: Annie Isabell [Clark] Stewart 1899-1991
Elizabeth Emma [Clark] Allan 1904-1994
Mary Clark 1899-1899
Alice Maud [Clark] McLean 1905-1992


EDIT:

Ah, I see the daughters' details are taken from their gravestones.

Annie married George Alexander Stewart 1890–1964. They had at least one child - only this deceased one is listed:

William Robert Stewart 1929–1994

William's wife:
Audrey H Haskell 1940–1982

No children listed, so either they didn't have any, or they're still alive.

Duncan R Clark
in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1826-1936
Name:
Duncan R Clark
Age:
28
Birth Year:
abt 1867
Birth Place:
Canada
Marriage Date:
17 Oct 1895
Marriage Place:
Wellington, Ontario, Canada
Father:
Donald Clark
Mother:
Margt McPherson
Spouse:
Margaret J McLean

Elizabeth Emma married Thomas Roy Allan 1899–1963 (per gravestone).
No children listed on Find a Grave, so again, either they didn't have any, or they're still alive - at least, at the time the info was added to the website..

Ok thanks I will look up these names on genes reunited see if i can get any further in finding someone still living .