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I'm not really sure what we're looking for! So have no idea if connected-

The image for that 1871 marriage is on https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie

George was indeed a widower, father John (a farmer).

George's occupation is ? and music teacher.

George and Jane (Baxter) have a son, George in 1875 Stranorlar- he possible died a year later.

Hi Austin Q, I think that George McNaught who married Jane Baxter, and probably previously Elisa Allen in 1857, is possibly the father of Samuel McNaught who married Sarah Frizzle.

I have posted an 1881 Census with what I believe is Samuel, father George, stepmother Jane Baxter, and half sister (?) to Samuel, Margaret .

No sign of 1875 born George though...but you did say he may have died a year later?

What I'd like to find is a birth/baptism for Margaret McNaught aged 8 on the 1881 census, down as born in Ireland.

That George,in the 1881 census, , was born c1826 in IRELAND so he is NOT the George McNaught born either 1838 or 1845 in Glasgow, son of John McNaught a compositor, and wife Jean Balmer . I think we have surmised the 1838 George had probably died by census 1841, and the second George, born 1845, would be too young to be the George who married Elisa Allen in Ireland in 1857, as well as that, he seems to have been single and living in London in census 1861.

So it's a question as to whether Nellie123 thinks I have the right Samuel and George in census 1881 in Glasgow. One fly in the ointment is that George is a music teacher on the marriage to Jane Baxter, but a labourer in the 1881 census...

(Nellie had below info. on other 'Thread', but doesn't seem to give any more details from 1886 Marriage Cert. in case it helped!)...

Chris :)


Hi im trying to find a marriage between George McNaught and Eliza Allan .I have them on their son Samuel McNaught,s marriage certificate but cant find when or
where the married any advice welcome thankyou Helen

Samuel McNaught married
Sarah Frizzle Glasgow Scotland on 19 August 1886

OK- makes sense. Thanks Kucinta- I think you're on the right track.

Possible red herring, but I wondered if there was any chance this is the death of 'Elisa' McNaught, nee Allen. Strabane is about 12 miles from Stranolar, where George M'Naught married Jane Baxter in 1871:

Name ELIZABETH MCNAUGHT
Year of Death 1865
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Strabane
Deceased Age at Death 33<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Returns Year 1865
Returns Quarter 3
Returns Volume No 12
Returns Page No 224

Unfortunately there's no image, so I can't check her marital status or if there's any information as to the name of her widower (if she had one)

Age is out but this is likely Jane in 1891:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Warroch Street, Barony, Anderston, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Jane McNaught Head Widow Female 57 1834 Ireland -
Maggie Thompson Daughter Married Female 19 1872 Ireland -
Thomas Thompson Son-In-Law Married Male 21 1870 Ireland Shoeing Smith
Robert Cumming Boarder Unmarried Male 42 1849 Lanarkshire, Scotland Carter
John Fletcher Boarder Unmarried Male 22 1869 Lanarkshire, Scotland Mineral Water Bottler
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And possibly George's death:

GEORGE MCNAUGHT
Age: 58
Year of death: 1889
Ref:644/10 423
RD Name: Anderston

I've just taken a look at the death cert for George- give me a minute, I'll post details. You were right Kucinta

Death:
George McNaught- Nightwatchman-1st married to Eliza Allen, 2nd to Jane Baxter
Date: 22 May 1889
Abode: 27 Catherine Street, Glasgow
Age 58 years
Father: John Mc Naught, farmer deceased
Mother: Isabella McNaught (ms Maxwell) deceased
Cause: Pneumonia 5 days
Informant. Jane Mcnaught Widow (present)

Well done Kucinta!

That's brillian Austin Q!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So Nellie123 now has it confirmed that George McNaught's parents were John McNaught and Isabella Maxwell, and that he was born in Ireland, not in Scotland.

I don't suppose you could pm Nellie123 an image of that death cert? It is pretty key to tying things up nicely :-)

Edit, I also note the address on the death cert is 27 Catherine St, and the address on the 1881 census was 21 Catherine St, so again, that ties in nicely.

I will do Kucinta- great work :)

This is likely the marriage of George & Jane's daughter, Margaret- transcribed as McKnight:

Marriage:
THOMAS THOMPSON
MARGARET MCKNIGHT
Year: 1891
Ref: 644/10 101
RD Name: Anderston
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EDIT: George Death certificate sent

Thank you everyone for your help I did think I must have gone wrong somewhere and that I might have to delete what I have and start again and with your help I just need to change things now I am ever so grateful for your help ....Nellie

Will all the names I have for the parents and grand parents of George McNaught be wrong now that we have found he and his father John were born in Ireland .. I am so confused now Nellie

Hi Nellie,

George's death record shows his parents to be John McNaught and Isabella nee Maxwell (so NOT John McNaught and Jean Balmer of Glasgow)

The marriage to Jane Baxter shows George's father John's occupation to be farmer.

You would need to try and trace the forebears of John McNaught, farmer, and Isabella Maxwell to get further back, though that may not be easy.

You were really lucky that AustinQ found that death record for George, confirming the names of his parents and both his wives, and that the information ties in with the information you have from the marriage register for Samuel McNaught and Sarah Frazzle.

Found the baptism of Margaret McNaught as McKnight:


Margarate A. Mc Night

Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

Name: Margarate A. Mc Night
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 03 Dec 1872
Birthplace: Donegal, Ireland
Father's Name: George Mc Night
Mother's Name: Jane Baxter

Thank you Kucinta

I think that record for Margaret is from the birth entry:

Margaret A Mcknight
born: 3rd December 1872
Abode: Flemingstown, Raphae
Father: George McKnight (weaver)
Mother: Jane McKnight (formerly Baxter)
SR District/Reg Area Strabane

(when George married Jane Baxter his address was also Flemingstown)

Griffith's Valuation
name(s) George McNaght
Role Occupier
Year 1858
Printing date 1858-03-22
Townland Flemingstown
Civil Parish Raphoe
Barony RAPHOE, NORTH
Poor Law Union STRABANE
County Donegal

Thank you AustinQ can I ask what is or was the Poor Law Union (is it a Poor House ) thankyou Nellie

Google it - you'll find plenty.

For instance:

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Strabane/

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/content/poor-law-unions

Nellie, the links AG put up should explain it.

George wasn't in the poor house or workhouse, it just means that the area where he was living came under that union.

Thank you